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Saints holding official visit with Keon Coleman (WR, FSU)

Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:57 pm
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@nick_underhill
The Saints have set up a visit with Florida State WR Keon Coleman, per source. The Louisiana native is 6-foot-3 and had 11 touchdowns last season. Also returns punts.

Fits the profile of the type of receiver who could fit in with Olave and Shaheed.
Posted by NOSA
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:01 pm to
Definitely wouldn’t complain if we drafted him in the second round.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Definitely wouldn’t complain if we drafted him in the second round.



Just don't want to reach for a guy when I feel like we have some other more pressing needs.
Posted by jamal
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Member since Jan 2013
11050 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:31 pm to
Yes. This dude is going to be a monster. People are too caught up on his 40 time. He’s the exact type of WR we need to add to Olave, Shaheed and Perry.
Posted by jamal
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:33 pm to
I doubt he’ll even be there at 45
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10897 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:45 pm to
Keon Coleman at #45 would definitely not be reaching and be an amazing pick.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Keon Coleman at #45 would definitely not be reaching and be an amazing pick.



I agree, I'm just saying there is a perception that the Saints have a habit of trading up for a player few, if any, thought they needed to trade up for. No need to reach is my point. I do have a habit of making my points in a manner often misinterpreted
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:44 pm to
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Definitely wouldn’t complain if we drafted him in the second round.

There should be better options

Even if we are looking WR

Contested catch WRs don't have a good recent track record. WRa who get open are worth so much more
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:58 pm to
I don't know. You don't want just one type of recv on your team. Colston and MT made qbs look better and they move the chains and eat clock. All valuable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 5:08 pm to
MT and MC could get open. Coleman has trouble doing that in college.

He's also not a real YAC guy.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 5:10 pm to
No he's definitely a possession guy. But if he can't get open like you say he will be lucky to get drafted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 5:30 pm to
NFL teams constantly convince themselves they can coach up contested catch guys by looking at the contested catches and not why so many of their catches are contested.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6887 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:12 pm to
Coleman is a possesion guy, but...caught he the ball all over...in space, over the middle, and yes, on jump balls.

He has game speed, and it will show up on Sundays.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16649 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:27 pm to
All smoke.

The pick will be someone out in left field.

Haven’t you all learned anything yet?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15548 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:43 pm to
Frick it. Reach for BTjr at 14
You can’t lose and we need a true #1 guy on the outside goin deep

Go OL and DE with the rest of your picks, I don’t care. We are great a drafting WR talent early but not so much with the lines.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20957 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:11 pm to
I’m SFP. If its not an original thought (thread) that I have, then I completely disagree.

You have never posted a positive comment. You’re a pessimist. Always looking for the negative. Miserable frick. You only care if your team is a winner. Bandwagoner.

Your schtick is old. You’re just an overweight lawyer pecking at a keyboard when you should be logging hours.

Give it a rest Stephen.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64209 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 11:42 pm to
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and not why so many of their catches are contested.


Sounds mighty fine barrister. 'Cept you missed one thing. The receivers ain't throwing the ball to themselves. You see not all qbs throw a great ball all the time. But be my guest and step over this fact as I don't want you step in it
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1617 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:44 am to
NO THANKS!!

Look Up his feels on LOUISIANA and LSU.

Hard Pass!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:38 am to
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You have never posted a positive comment



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. You only care if your team is a winner. Bandwagoner.

I would prefer my team to be a winner, and that means making +EV moves. What is so controversial about that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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421838 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:51 am to
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'Cept you missed one thing. The receivers ain't throwing the ball to themselves. You see not all qbs throw a great ball all the time. But be my guest and step over this fact as I don't want you step in it

Contested target rates are more indicative of separation than pass placement. PFF sums it up:

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If making contested catches is a part of your skill set, that’s great. If it’s the best thing you bring to the table? We might have a problem.




Non-PFF Tweet

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The contested target rate is the number of contested targets divided by a player’s total targets. This is, in essence, a way to measure how much separation a prospect is getting. The logic behind this being predictive of busts is that these players can bully their way to production in college. But in the NFL, with bigger, stronger, faster players, the contested catch prowess doesn’t hold up near as well as elite separators.

Ideally, you want to see this rate under 20%.



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Coleman’s 34.5% rate here is extraordinarily high and is such a major red flag he will make it onto my DO NOT DRAFT list. This is the worst in this class and one of the worst in my records for a prospect considered to go in the top two rounds of the NFL draft. This screams that he will be a bust and likely a touchdown-dependent type of player.
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