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Saints -4 next MNF against Ravens

Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:02 pm
I really can't believe my eyes when looking at this line. Did Vegas not get the memo that this is not even close to the same team as a year ago or the same HFA?

Who is going to stop Steve and Torrey Smith? Flacco has looked brilliant at times this year, and Brees and Payton have never beaten the Ravens.

If the Saints are going to suck, we might as well make some money off of them.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:04 pm to
OMG the Saints are 2 point favorite against the Packers how can that be? Have you seen this team this year? Rodgers is playing so well. Bet the Packers. Easy money. IT'S A LOCK
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:06 pm to
People said the same when we were favored over GB. I realize our HFA doesn't look so great after the past two weeks, but it's primetime. That's a little different. Honestly ill probably be on the Saints.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:06 pm to
All logic is out the window for this season.
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:07 pm to
No, I bet the Saints that game. This is different with all the injuries that have mounted up. And the Packers game was a at a pick... not LAYING 4.

Also, it is highly doubtful the Saints win that game unless Rodgers injures his hammy. Ravens are a much more physical team than the Packers. They match up great with the Saints.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:09 pm to
is been 12 years since we've beaten the ravens


drew has never beaten the ravens

they have our number...to top it off, the saints aren't even moderately good...they're the top tier of shitty teams
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:09 pm to
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And the Packers game was a at a pick... not LAYING 4. 


False

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they have our number..


Based on what ?

We've played them once since Harbaugh took over there in 2008 and lost by 6 on the road...that was in 2010
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11693 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:10 pm to
Hopefully someone will unplug the lights in the 2nd qtr so I don't see the beating we are about to get.
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:15 pm to
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False


Okay, Saints were favored by 2 (essentially a pick). There is a massive difference being favored by 4.

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I realize our HFA doesn't look so great after the past two weeks, but it's primetime.


I don't think it will matter. Crowd noise can't make up for Corey White covering Steve Smith. Besides do you expect fans to really be fired up for this game? More than half of the fan base has already jumped ship.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:16 pm to
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And the Packers game was a at a pick


You literally just made this up. It is unequivocally false. The line was Saints -2 for the entire week. At one point on gameday it dropped to -1.5 then went right back to -2. At kickoff it was -2. You thought "how can I make what I said not look as bad" then made something up. Why lie?
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13617 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Also, it is highly doubtful the Saints win that game unless Rodgers injures his hammy.


This is such bullshite, the packers didn't stop our offense once


And how do the Ravens have our number, we rarely play them.
As for betting, not sure I'll lay the points, but I'll atleast go money line. Saints at home, primetime in a game they have to win. I like my chances.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Okay, Saints were favored by 2 (essentially a pick). There is a massive difference being favored by 4.





It is not essentially a pick. You've shown to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

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Also, it is highly doubtful the Saints win that game unless Rodgers injures his hammy.


So that is why we scored 44 points and never punted?

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I really can't believe my eyes when looking at this line


There is nothing shocking about this line if you follow the NFL at all
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:22 pm to
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This is such bullshite, the packers didn't stop our offense once


You need to go rewatch that game. Pack were in position to take a 20-13 lead in the 3rd I believe. Rodgers injured his hammy. Then threw a pick in the redzone which swung momentum completely and the Saints never looked back.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:23 pm to
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You need to go rewatch that game.


You need to. We did not punt once

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Pack were in position to take a 20-13 lead in the 3rd I believe


Yes they were.

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Rodgers injured his hammy. Then threw a pick in the redzone which swung momentum completely and the Saints never looked back.


So he threw that int, which was a perfectly placed ball, because of his hammy?

You're saying it is "highly doubtful" that we lose a game where we absolutely rolled their defense up and down the field and completely controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Based on what ?

sean payton is 0-2 versus the ravens as a HC, and he also had his offense get raped by them in a super bowl when he was the OC for the Giants. Drew Brees has NEVER beaten the Ravens

let's look at the matchups since payton took over...



2006: Jim Fassel loses playcalling duties the week before the game, Brian Billick is calling the offense for a team that had been woeful on offense for Billick's entire tenure. The Saints were one of the top offenses, if not the top offense, in the league

they beat us like a drum in the superdome and steve mcnair, literally on his last leg was beating us like it was 1998. Our offense was shut down completely as well

In 2010, ray rice had 250 yards, we threw the ball 46 times in a game that was close all the way through. I fondly remember this game as jimmy graham's coming out party and for the crazy one hand TD catch.


we haven't beaten them since 2002...aaron brooks put on a show that day.

not a lot of games, but they certainly have our number. We were the better team the last two times they beat us...and they're about to push their mark against payton's saints to 3-0.
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:25 pm to
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It is not essentially a pick. You've shown to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about


Key #s in the NFL are 3 and 4, not 2.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:26 pm to
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sean payton is 0-2 versus the ravens as a HC, and he also had his offense get raped by them in a super bowl when he was the OC for the Giants. Drew Brees has NEVER beaten the Ravens



We've lost to their coaching staff once, on the road, by 1 score.

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, and he also had his offense get raped by them in a super bowl when he was the OC for the Giants.


Yea, that is relevant

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not a lot of games,


Yep, making it statistically irrelevant.

It is a stupid argument to make.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:28 pm to
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No, I bet the Saints that game. This is different with all the injuries that have mounted up. And the Packers game was a at a pick


No you didn't. Because if you would have you would know that it was -2. Know who did bet the Saints that day? I did. At -2. Because that's what the line was.

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Okay, Saints were favored by 2 (essentially a pick). There is a massive difference being favored by 4.


Do you know what the "massive difference" is between being favored by 4 points as opposed to 2? Two fricking points. The same amount of 2 points you just said essentially didn't matter in the your quote directly above. So when the 2 points don't agree with your view they don't matter but when the same exact two points are in line with your view they do matter and are a "massive difference." PLEASE STOP POSTING
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:29 pm to
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You're saying it is "highly doubtful" that we lose a game where we absolutely rolled their defense up and down the field and completely controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball


C'mon man. After Rodgers injured his hammy he was not the same. He couldn't move around in the pocket like he wanted or get anything on the ball after that. That injury totally swung momentum in the game. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted by Zipfer2022
Member since Nov 2011
3736 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Do you know what the "massive difference" is between being favored by 4 points as opposed to 2? Two fricking points. The same amount of 2 points you just said essentially didn't matter in the your quote directly above. So when the 2 points don't agree with your view they don't matter but when the same exact two points are in line with your view they do matter and are a "massive difference." PLEASE STOP POSTING


I can't help you if you don't follow or understand NFL betting.
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