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Petty VS Grayson
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:29 am
The saints recently worked out bryce petty and grayson(who according to someone there,CSP came to see himself).
If the saints decide to take a QB between the 2,who would you rather?
Petty 6'3 225
Grayson 6'2 220
grayson CBS
petty CBS
If the saints decide to take a QB between the 2,who would you rather?
Petty 6'3 225
Grayson 6'2 220
grayson CBS
petty CBS
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:35 am to LosLobos111
Petty is a baller, I love watching that offense but I don't trust Qb's in the NFL from it. I don't know much about the other guy, but Mcelwain seems to run pro style offense. I'd still go Petty though and hope that he can grasp the offense.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:58 am to LosLobos111
Draft sites i check show Petty has a slight chance to go at the end of the First round.with the 31st-44th-75th picks its 90% For Petty there at 31st the 50% he is there at 44th an only 25% with 75th pick.So if you would like to draft Petty plan on using 31st pick an for Grayson the 44th or 75th pick.I think one will soon be a Saints player.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:03 am to LosLobos111
I'd rather Grayson, especially being that you can likely get him later.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:03 am to LosLobos111
i wouldnt want us to pick a QB with our first 3 picks that being said Id want petty
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:10 am to Tyler9258
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I love watching that offense but I don't trust Qb's in the NFL from it
that's because they aren't given enough time to develop. If a player has all the skills and tools, then he should be taken. If you avoid him due to the offense he played in, then you are missing out. It is true that they will usually fail going to a Browns team that will want to start them asap, because they are forced into NFL systems without being ready. A team like the Saints can take these type of QBs and give them the necessary time to learn NFL systems as well as teach them to become good QBs in general.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:19 am to mm2316
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I'd rather Grayson, especially being that you can likely get him later.
If you think one of these guys is the future (which you would if you are taking them in the first 3 rounds) you do not base your selection on which one you can get later.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:21 am to Hester Carries
The "especially" should imply that I like Grayson better, and that being able to get him later is a bonus. In case it didn't, I like Grayson better.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:23 am to LosLobos111
Personally, I don't think either will turn out to be a NFL starter, jmo. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Mannion if he fell to the 5th round.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:24 am to Midget Death Squad
Has there been a case where I guy from that type of offense has been given time and has been successful? I'm not asking to be a smart arse, that high tempo offense is relatively new, so I was wondering if you had a case you were speaking of or just speaking generally. Having said that I think Petty. Big arm, size, seems to have a chip on his shoulder.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:24 am to mm2316
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The "especially" should imply that I like Grayson better, and that being able to get him later is a bonus. In case it didn't, I like Grayson better.
I like Grayson more as well. I guess I wouldn't mind taking him in the 3rd, but I feel we have more needs at other positions.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:27 am to GMoney2600
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I guess I wouldn't mind taking him in the 3rd, but I feel we have more needs at other positions.
Yeah, that's how I feel as well. I'd almost rather use one of the 3rds to move up from 31 if someone that we have rated top 15 falls around 20, than to take a QB in the 3rd.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:32 am to Midget Death Squad
People really don't remember but Drew Brees played in a wide open spread offense under Joe Tiller at Purdue. It was basketball on grass much like you see from Baylor, Oregon, West Virginia, etc. It did take him a couple of years to make an impact in San Diego though.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:38 am to GMoney2600
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Personally, I don't think either will turn out to be a NFL starter, jmo. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Mannion if he fell to the 5th round.
I dont get this either. You dont think Petty or Grayson are going to be successful but Mannion will?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:41 am to Hester Carries
I think all of them have a chance to be a good backup. I don't think any will be a legit starter. I'd rather use a 5th rounder on a backup than a 3rd. Grayson is my favorite of the 3 though...I just don't want to use a 3rd rounder on a QB.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:46 am to LosLobos111
My gut feeling is Payton wants Petty and will pick him at #44...if he's there.
For all of those folks saying: No QB this draft because we have too many holes on the team. I get it, but you have to have a "go forward" plan at the QB spot right now. There are too many variables in the equation with Brees and we're not close to an answer.
Payton seems to be retooling the offense to a more balanced attack and there are many reasons for it: the OL isn't what it use to be, Brees may have lost some of the zip on the ball, we can't get by anymore with the "off the shelf" WR we have...etc. This transition also is a major plus for training a new QB...less pressure to put the entire team on your shoulders.
For all of those folks saying: No QB this draft because we have too many holes on the team. I get it, but you have to have a "go forward" plan at the QB spot right now. There are too many variables in the equation with Brees and we're not close to an answer.
Payton seems to be retooling the offense to a more balanced attack and there are many reasons for it: the OL isn't what it use to be, Brees may have lost some of the zip on the ball, we can't get by anymore with the "off the shelf" WR we have...etc. This transition also is a major plus for training a new QB...less pressure to put the entire team on your shoulders.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:52 am to GMoney2600
We arent going to draft a career backup before round 6. Id go as far as saying we arent drafting a guy at all to be a career back up but ill give myself a 2 round cushion.
That being said, if you are drafting a guy to start at some point, you dont base WHICH guy on round value.
That being said, if you are drafting a guy to start at some point, you dont base WHICH guy on round value.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:57 am to Hester Carries
I wouldn't draft any of these guys to be a starter in the future. I don't even like the 2 guys in the 1st round. If it were up to me...we would wait until next year. Next years QB class can't be any worse...I hope.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:57 am to Northshore Saint
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People really don't remember but Drew Brees played in a wide open spread offense under Joe Tiller at Purdue. It was basketball on grass much like you see from Baylor, Oregon, West Virginia, etc. It did take him a couple of years to make an impact in San Diego though.
You beat me to it. Plus pre-200's QB's were rarely drafted and starting as rookies. They were drafted based on talent and then developed into the pro game.
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