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re: Per Adam Schefter - Saints to Hire Rob Ryan as DC - Maybe Not?

Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:13 pm to
hmmmmmm
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:13 pm to
Stephen A. is going to be pissed
Posted by Bduhon55
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:14 pm to
I for one do not mind the hire of Rob Ryan. I know people say Gregg Williams was a guy who came in and did things that were frowned upon, but the fact is he got the talent lacking defense to be middle of the road and take away the ball. Rob Ryan has the same edge about him and the ego to go with it. If he is willing to come in and not knock heads with Payton, with the right players through the draft and FA it isnt a bad hire. All the defense needs is to be top 15 and take away the ball.

In 1995, as Cardinals CB coach, his team led the league with 42 takeaways 32 of which were interceptions.

In 1997-99 he was ranked coordinator of the year while putting together a top 5 defense in the nation all three years.

From 2000-03 Ryan was one of the best linebackers coaches in the NFL when he helped New England rank 7th in defense allowing a league low 17pts per game.

2006 as the Raiders DC, he put together a defense that ranked 3rd in yds allowed and 18th in pts allowed.

As Cowboys DC, Ryan's defense was not as good as in recent NFL jobs. The Cowboys did still put up 14th in yds allowed and 16th in pts allowed.

With the right people in house, and an offense like the Saints have he could be succesful.

I dont hate the hire, but I'm not in love with it either.

Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:15 pm to
If this is true, I would have rathered keep Spags.

There have been very few things I have 100 disagreed with throughout Payton's tenure and this is one of them.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:15 pm to
Would much prefer Grantham. Lets hope Holder is right.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:16 pm to
I just hope he doesn't run his mouth too much. Its not hard to imagine Rob Ryan in the exact scenario Gregg Williams got us fricked for.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:16 pm to
Keep in mind too that his defense was prob on the field a lot with romoception turning it over
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:17 pm to
I like his intensity and I think in that regard he's a good fit. Just hope that he and Payton gel
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:18 pm to
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JeffDuncanTP: RT @LarryHolder: #Saints will interview Georgia DC Todd Grantham on Thursday

Would also much rather Grantham
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:18 pm to
Not a good hire
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:18 pm to
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If this is true, I would have rathered keep Spags. There have been very few things I have 100 disagreed with throughout Payton's tenure and this is one of them.


Getting a little ahead of yourself
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22638 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:19 pm to
Holder is shitting all over Schefter and I like it.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Its not hard to imagine Rob Ryan in the exact scenario Gregg Williams got us fricked for.


It's definitely odd to go for a Williams clone after Williams just fricked the organization raw.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21286 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:19 pm to
Quite being a bitch!

I like the hire. Sweep the leg.
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
2793 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:21 pm to
No Ryan led defense has ever made the post-season. I felt this was worth repeating.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

It's definitely odd to go for a Williams clone after Williams just fricked the organization raw.


A fiery sideline disposition does not make him the same as Gregg Williams.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:21 pm to
Sean Payton lead offenses have made the post season numerous times
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24495 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:22 pm to
I always get a chuckle out of the ST hacks crying NOOOOOO when the organization does something you disagree with. Let me guess, Paeyton must be fired for making such a terrible decision (if this is true)? I guess you all know more about Rob Ryan than Paeyton and Loomis do? Yeah, that makes sense. How about they maybe wanted a 3-4 DC that believes running an attack oriented scheme rather than a bend don't break scheme ala Crenell?

While I admit that the historical statistics of his defenses don't look flashy, there is a lot to be said for the terrible organizations he has worked for as well as the lack of talent. Dallas had a ton of injuries last year that directly effected their D, and Oak/Cle are jokes.

Is he my ideal hire for us? No. But neither is Crennell. I personally wanted them to target a position coach rather than a current DC that carries a big name. Am I upset that they didn't do what I wanted them to do? Hell no. That would be downright silly of me to think I know better than they do.

Stop whining, people. I feel like I am having flashbacks to 2009 draft when the fools on here were ripping this team for selecting Morestead. It's tiring.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:22 pm to
If we can have a middle teen ranked defense....

League fuuuuuucked
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71520 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:22 pm to
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No Ryan led defense has ever made the post-season. I felt this was worth repeating.


Browns, Raiders Romo and Garrett led offense. Do you think Brees and Payton can surpass the output of those teams?
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