re: One more year for reggie!

quote:

---

Can we wait for Reggie's 3rd season to play out before we throw him under the bus?

---

he's not only a RB (and therefore should have had an easy transition), but he was the most hyped RB in years, and he is the highest-paid RB in the NFL

quote:

---

The dude is a unique talent,

---

i don't even believe this anymore

there are plenty of WRs who are very similar to reggie and would prolly run about as well if put at RB

quote:

---

$1 of salary cap space is worth a lot more than $1 in commerce

---

You got that right.

quote:

---

so he's responsible for performing up to other people's hype? brilliant.

---

well i don't like to throw around the term bust, but busts are generally measured against this

i like to use his salary much more than hype, but you can't deny his hype coming in

quote:

---

Reggie splits time at back in a pass happy offense and a quarterback who is a great ball distributor... I know its cliche, but stats can be misleading.

---

stats aren't misleading in this respect

he gets a ton of receptions and a good # of receiving yards

the biggest problem is he is a RUNNING back and his efficiency (not total yards) running is below average. he hasn't even averaged 4.0 ypc yet, and he has what? 1, 100 yard game? 2?

quote:

---

You don't even believe he's a unique talent anymore?

---

no because i think he's a WR more than anything else, to be honest

there are a ton of 5-11, 200 lb WRs who run 4.35s and are agile

quote:

---

Please don't come back on the Reggie Bandwagon

---

when was i on it? i pretty much said reggie would do exactly as he has done and was not the right pick for the saints

*ETA: i still think the saints should bite the bullet and move him to WR for 85% or so of his snaps, and have him as the 3rd down back for the other snaps. reggie in the slot with colston/meachem = $$$ in a year or 2

frick off turd with your fat arse girl

Just was asking for an opinion

quote:

---

frick off turd with your fat arse girl

---

Good post.

quote:

---

stats aren't misleading in this respect

he gets a ton of receptions and a good # of receiving yards

---

actually they are. When you compare his rushing yards to those of other backs to support the idea that he's an average talent and you don't take into consideration a multitude of other factors that could affect that than its misleading.

quote:

---

the biggest problem is he is a RUNNING back and his efficiency (not total yards) running is below average. he hasn't even averaged 4.0 ypc yet, and he has what? 1, 100 yard game? 2?

---

He doesn't get as many carries as other backs, that affects the 100 yard games now doesn't it? More carries equals more opportunity to break some. Misleading statistic to reference. Although I will concede that Stecker and Thomas got consecutive 100 yard games behind the same offensive line, that is disconcerning to say the least.

No one's arguing with you regarding his production being sub-par here so far. It doesn't mean that he's all of a sudden an incapable back. How can you possibly give up on the guy as a RB so soon? I mean you'd have to be a pussy to just throw in the towel when things are going tough for you. Reggie thinks he can do it, Payton seems to think he can still do it, I think they have a little more insight on it. He has played TWO NFL seasons... TWO! Give me a break!

quote:

---

no because i think he's a WR more than anything else, to be honest

---

Reggie at RB fits this offensive scheme but not as a primary back yet as he hasn't shown the ability THUS FAR to carry that load on his own. But coming out of the back field on swing routes and being employed in a lot of different sets and formations as a decoy and for misdirection plays is an invaluable aspect of this offense. He will hit the hole from time to time as well. Lets see how he performs in tandem with a healthy power back in the rotation before deeming him an incapable back and relegating him to receiver only.

Like I said, I'm not refuting that Reggie is struggling from where we all think he should be right now, there's really no doubt about that, but giving up on his potential ability to get there so early on is absolutely absurd to me, all things considered.

quote:

---

When you compare his rushing yards to those of other backs to support the idea that he's an average talent and you don't take into consideration a multitude of other factors that could affect that than its misleading.

---

deuce ran better in 2006

stecker and thomas ran better in 2007

people overrated that "multitude of factors"

quote:

---

He doesn't get as many carries as other backs

---

look to his efficiency, which is low. 3.6/3.7 ypc

quote:

---

It doesn't mean that he's all of a sudden an incapable back. How can you possibly give up on the guy as a RB so soon? I

---

when has he ever shown great running ability? not at USC

quote:

---

I mean you'd have to be a pussy to just throw in the towel when things are going tough for you.

---

it's about using his actual abilities and style to best suit the saints. that's at WR

quote:

---

but you have to weigh productivity against cost. The real question is: How long to do stick with a RB, who is more adapted to being a WR,

---

I agree with this entirely. Its a dilemma for sure but I don't think that based on his 2007 season, which let's be honest, that's why everybody's all in a fit, that he can't be better for this team at RB. He didn't put up eye popping rushing numbers by any means in 06, and like SFP said, Deuce did (well not necessarily eye popping but good, and certainly better than Reggie). I'm fully aware of this. We reached the fricking NFC Championship game that year. Reggie can fit and contribute greatly to this offense from the RB position with a healthy and capable power back like to Deuce to compliment him and even share the backfield with in certain formations like the I.

Point being, Reggie didn't have a lights out rookie season rushing, yet we reached the NFC Championship game utilizing his unique abilities in concert with our other talent. Reggie was a vital part of that success, but so was Deuce and others. Reggie doesn't have to be LT at RB to benefit this team more at that position than WR IMO.

And just to reiterate, I'm just like everybody else, not convinced with Reggie yet and concerned, but not giving up on him yet either. Maybe if rookie contracts weren't getting so ridiculous this would be less of an issue.

quote:

---

it's about using his actual abilities and style to best suit the saints. that's at WR

---

I love how you're stating this as if it is fact. Its not by any means, its YOUR opinion. Reggie doesn't agree with you and obviously Payton doesn't either. I get your points and I see where you're coming from, but this is by no means a cut and dry issue. Its a dilemma. And look at from Reggie's perspective, he still thinks he can be a productive back, he's gonna work his arse off to show it this year. Let's see what 2008 brings before we go prematurely writing him off as a back is all I'm saying.