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re: NFLPA fies grievance against Goodell (links added)
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:21 am to Hoodoo Man
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:21 am to Hoodoo Man
Remember when "The media never talks about the Saints" would always get brought up? Looks like we got our wish. Maybe not what we wanted, but we will get plenty of media coverage all season. This time though, it will be much of the media eating crow. I have to say this though. I don't watch ESPN much anymore, but I did watch the Bayless/Smith debate on the Saints. Both said this team will be better than last year, and will be out to prove everyone wrong. Can't hate them for that comment, at least they are aware.
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Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:48 am to CocoLoco
My finger are crossed for this. My hope is that a better way of handling player/coach discipline. Not just a fascist regime that doles out punishment at will and without parameters.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:01 am to 10888bge
Coaches are not subject to the CBA; therefore, Goodell can shite all over them and those suspensions will stand.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:06 am to udtiger
Ah, glass half empty guy? Let us have some hope. I'd like to shite all over your comment. I had a bunch of coffee this morning too, fricker!
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:20 am to 10888bge
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:22 am to bigeztiger
Am I still in time for the grievance party? 
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:25 am to kclsufan
Yes woooooohoooooooo :confetti: :noisemaker:
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:39 am to 10888bge
Well under this circumstance, wouldn't payton be free also? Or is it just players?
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:47 am to sunnydaze
No, non-players don't have unions, so Goodell can do what he wants to them and the media laps it up.
Their only recourse is to sue the NFL with a private attorney, which would cost a lot of money and the NFL would drag it our for years.
These same media idiots weren't calling for evidence when it was Payton, Loomis, and Vitt but now they are...because that's going to sell the best right now. However, I'm still glad the NFL is being called out...it's about time.
Their only recourse is to sue the NFL with a private attorney, which would cost a lot of money and the NFL would drag it our for years.
These same media idiots weren't calling for evidence when it was Payton, Loomis, and Vitt but now they are...because that's going to sell the best right now. However, I'm still glad the NFL is being called out...it's about time.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:28 am to sunnydaze
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Well under this circumstance, wouldn't payton be free also? Or is it just players?
Coaches do have a union. It is coupled with the NFLPA but dosn't have the same amount of juice. Also the coaches have already appealed. I do not know if that has exhausted their options for any type of penalty reduction.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:49 pm to 10888bge
It's not a union...it has no teeth.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:31 pm to Swagga
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Good. It is ridiculous that Goodell gets to decide the penalties and hear the appeal. That is bad for everyone in the NFL, not just the Saints.
Problem is, the NFLPA did a terrible job at negotiating. They had their shot to do away with this format, but they were more concerned about less practices and keeping a 16 game season.
I don't like the way Goodell is running things, but the players union fricked up by not pushing the envelope on this for the new CBA.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:47 pm to dcrews
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I don't like the way Goodell is running things, but the players union fricked up by not pushing the envelope on this for the new CBA.
Goodell may have seriously overplayed his hand, though, if the NFLPA is correct that he wasn't allowed to consider actions on or before August 2011 in connection with player suspensions.
If this holds up, then the Fujita and Hargrove suspensions are totally thrown out and there's likely a good chance that the Smith and Vilma suspensions are greatly reduced.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:49 pm to teke184
I'd like to see Goodell take more heat from the owners
Posted on 5/4/12 at 2:00 pm to 10888bge
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Appeals of player suspensions in the New Orleans Saints’ bounty program haven’t been filed yet, but the NFL Players Association has gone ahead and started the legal ball rolling. The union filed a grievance with the NFL’s vice president of labor arbitration and litigation, Buckley Brooks. The NFLPA also has asked for system arbitration. The filings claim that the punishments “violated the (league’s) duty of fairness to the players.” The union also claims various procedural requirements of the collective-bargaining agreement were violated, including the limits of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell’s authority, and a failure to disclose sufficient evidence. The league has said all along that the ultimate decision on any discipline rested with Goodell. The union also claims that a big chunk of the three-year bounty program doesn’t even qualify for discipline. The union says that part of the collective-bargaining agreement, signed last summer, stipulated that the league agreed to overlook any conduct matters from prior to the agreement. Much of the specific evidence cited in the announcement of the punishments was related to games in the playoffs at the end of the 2009 Super Bowl season. New Orleans linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been suspended for the entire 2012 season, and linebacker Will Smith will be suspended for the first four games. Former New Orleans defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove, now with Green Bay, drew an eight-game suspension, and linebacker Scott Fujita, now with Cleveland, will be suspended for the first three games.
From ESPN NFC South blog.
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/4/12 at 2:26 pm to 10888bge
They should change the title of that article to, "NFLPA Tells Goodell to eat a dick".
Posted on 5/5/12 at 8:10 pm to teke184
In all honesty, having Vilma and Smith would be nice, but is it really a TRAGIC hit to our defense this year?
New d-coordinator, new scheme, etc... How stout was this D really going to be anyway?
New d-coordinator, new scheme, etc... How stout was this D really going to be anyway?
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