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Mel Kiper's Updated Top 10 Prospects at Each Position

Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:49 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:49 pm
Just released today

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Defensive ends

1. *Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
2. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
3. **Solomon Thomas, Stanford
4. Taco Charlton, Michigan
5. *Derek Barnett, Tennessee
6. *Charles Harris, Missouri
7. *Carl Lawson, Auburn
8. Jordan Willis, Kansas State
9. DeMarcus Walker, Florida State
10. Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic

Hendrickson (6-4, 266) is a natural pass-rusher who could be taken in the third or fourth round. His 4.20 20-yard shuttle at the combine was second best among defensive linemen


Inside linebackers

1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Jarrad Davis, Florida
3. *Raekwon McMillan, Ohio State
4. *Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
5. Kendell Beckwith, LSU
6. *Anthony Walker Jr., Northwestern
7. Ben Gedeon, Michigan
8. Jayon Brown, UCLA
9. Harvey Langi, BYU
10. Blair Brown, Ohio

Brown (6-0, 231) is a solid player who took Myles Jack's place in 2015. He had 2.5 sacks and three interceptions last season.


Outside linebackers

1. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA
2. Haason Reddick, Temple
3. *T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
4. Tim Williams, Alabama
5. Duke Riley, LSU
6. Derek Rivers, Youngstown State
7. Tyus Bowser, Houston
8. Ryan Anderson, Alabama
9. *Alex Anzalone, Florida
10. Vince Biegel, Wisconsin

Rivers (6-4, 248) had a great combine, running a 4.61 40 with 35 reps on the bench press and a 35-inch vertical. He could be a Day 2 pick.

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This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:31 pm to
If you don't mind can you post the WR list also?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

1. *John Ross, Washington
2. *Mike Williams, Clemson
3. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
4. Zay Jones, East Carolina
5. *Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
6. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
7. *Chris Godwin, Penn State
8. *Carlos Henderson, Louisiana Tech
9. *JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC
10. Taywan Taylor, Western Kentucky

The big change here is Ross (5-11, 188), who moves to the top spot. I'm still waiting on official 40 times from Williams (6-4, 218) and Davis (6-3, 209). Jones (6-2, 201) is another riser after the combine and the Senior Bowl.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5339 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:40 pm to
I'll never understand the Myles Garrett love. Dude looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278394 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:49 pm to
What do the asterisks notate?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61286 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:55 pm to
* = Junior

** = RS Soph
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:55 pm to
Underclassmen. One * indicates junior, two indicates redshirt sophomore.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

John Ross, Washington
2. *Mike Williams, Clemson


No thanks. Give me Mike Williams.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

I'll never understand the Myles Garrett love. Dude looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane.


He stacked up stats against shite teams and complete disappeared on several occasions against top competition in the SEC. He could turn out to be a great player, but I fail to see how he's consistently labeled as the #1 pick. I'd rather someone who was consistent throughout their career l as opposed to Garrett who showed obvious weaknesses against the run and decent left tackles.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

No thanks. Give me Mike Williams


I like Mike Williams but Ross would be awesome in our system.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3923 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:34 pm to
If Corey Davis is there at 32 we should take him. Unless Christian is there of course.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:33 pm to
I watched LSU run right at Garrett the last couple years. I think he struggles against the run.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96196 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:12 am to
Not a fan of Kiper at all. His assessment of talent never coincides with how the draft actually pans out but can anybody divulge who his top 3-4 corners are? Is this allowed??Just curious.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72013 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 4:56 am to
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4. Zay Jones, East Carolina


This year's michael Thomas
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11908 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

He stacked up stats against shite teams and complete disappeared on several occasions against top competition in the SEC. He could turn out to be a great player, but I fail to see how he's consistently labeled as the #1 pick. I'd rather someone who was consistent throughout their career l as opposed to Garrett who showed obvious weaknesses against the run and decent left tackles.
Who would that be in this draft? To me, he is the clear #1 pick in this draft.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11908 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:01 am to
quote:

I watched LSU run right at Garrett the last couple years. I think he struggles against the run.
The majority of the best pass rusher are not stout run stoppers.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I watched LSU run right at Garrett the last couple years. I think he struggles against the run.


Here's the deal that I've noticed in regards to LSU fans' assessments of Garrett....it's not much different than Bama fans' assessments of Fournette. For whatever reason LSU annually whips Aggie and Bama annually whips LSU.

It's hard not to, but try not to judge a player based solely on his performance against a particular team. I'm guilty of it too at times. Take it into consideration sure, but there's not a guy in this draft that approaches Garrett from a prospect standpoint. His measurables are off the charts, and he's had really good production in his career regardless of his performances against LSU
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31588 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:53 am to
If we are targeting an offensive player I would love Curtis Samuel at 42.

Dude had like 800 yards rushing and 800 yards receiving and he ran a 4.31. We could give it to him 10 times on the ground and throw it to him 10 more and he would be deadly in our offense.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:28 am to
yea I brought him up yesterday in the Kamara thread. I actually think Samuel could be there at 76. He really is a tweener so it's going to take someone wanting that type of player, because they aren't a "need." He's not a starting or backup running back and he's not a starting slot receiver, he's a specialist/gadget player and I don't expect someone like that to go very high. A comparable guy recently from a prospect standpoint would be Dri Archer that went 96th overall. Drake is a similar player too but a little bigger and proved more between the tackles in college and he went 73rd. I just think that's the neighborhood you start to see these specialty backs go
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36037 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:12 pm to
Here's the difference; Fournette failed to show up well versus great Bama defenses stacked to stop him; while Garret failed to show up versus bad LSU offenses despite A&M stacking the D to stop the run.

There is a difference.
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