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Let's Talk About The Punt
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:40 pm
I keep thinking about it, and I can't for the life of me figure it out.
What was the point?
What's to gain from punting?
There's like a 1 in 400 chance the defense will produce a turnover at midfield.
But really, at best, you're hoping that our crappy defense will hold them to a three and out, get the ball back right where you were, and have 45 fewer seconds on the clock.
What was Payton thinking?
Was there any possible benefit to this punt I'm missing?
What was the point?
What's to gain from punting?
There's like a 1 in 400 chance the defense will produce a turnover at midfield.
But really, at best, you're hoping that our crappy defense will hold them to a three and out, get the ball back right where you were, and have 45 fewer seconds on the clock.
What was Payton thinking?
Was there any possible benefit to this punt I'm missing?
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:41 pm to Hoodoo Man
Pretty sure we have been talking about it, and it was a bad call.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:42 pm to Hoodoo Man
extending the inevitable. our wr's suck so it was a matter of saving drew from a game ending int.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:43 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
Let's Talk About The Punter
fricking average. Cut the bitch.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:43 pm to diat150
quote:Huh.
extending the inevitable. our wr's suck so it was a matter of saving drew from a game ending int.
This may actually be what CSP was thinking.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:46 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
I keep thinking about it, and I can't for the life of me figure it out.
It doesn't make sense.
The best case scenario was to get the ball back at about the same point on the field (at best the 20), with 50 seconds less on the clock and no timeouts needing a TD.
OBVIOUSLY, the better decision was to take your chances on 4th and 6 with 2 TOs and try and engineer a TD drive.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:52 pm to moneyg
Unless, he was thinking of getting Murphy a chance at a return.
Still wasn`t the right call. Should`ve went for it.
Still wasn`t the right call. Should`ve went for it.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:53 pm to Hoodoo Man
Also, IF you are going to punt in that situation. Would it make more sense to take the safety and go down by 7 then kick the ball to the other side of the field. That reduces the chance of a FG (which puts you down 8) and may also get them to be more conservative since they wouldn't be so close to FG range.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
Was Payton ever asked about it? I mean really asked to explain it, not allowed to slide with some non-answer like "I felt it was the right decision at the time"?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:55 pm to Weekend Warrior79
There were a lot of things we could have done.
Didn't the punt come right after the two minute warning?
CSP had time to think and come up with this shitty plan.
Didn't the punt come right after the two minute warning?
CSP had time to think and come up with this shitty plan.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:56 pm to Hoodoo Man
It literally makes no sense
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:56 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Going for it on 4th and 6 has like a 50% success rate. There's no other option - it's so stupid. The decision to punt is 100% indefensible. There is literally no possible explanation which is why I want so badly to hear Payton have to give a legit answer.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:57 pm to SirWinston
Maybe he thought he still had 3 time outs. That's all I can think of lol
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:57 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
Didn't the punt come right after the two minute warning?
CSP had time to think and come up with this shitty plan.
Too bad Brees is so checked out - you'd think he'd be able to talk some sense into Payton. He happily trudged to sit by himself on the bench and look at his fricking iPad. I hate him lately.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:57 pm to Weekend Warrior79
quote:
hat reduces the chance of a FG (which puts you down 8) and may also get them to be more conservative since they wouldn't be so close to FG range
And it leads to better field position, but the right call was to go for it
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:57 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:00 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
And it leads to better field position, but the right call was to go for it
I think we all agree with that, I'm just thinking that if I ran the team and was looking to punt there I would actually consider taking the safety to try and flip the field. You are down 7 and if your defense can get the 3 and out; you will only need to go around 60 yards to send it to OT.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:00 pm to KindaRaw
What if Payton went for it.
The play was basically a Cooks bomb down the sideline.
Lets assume the pass ends up incomplete somehow.
Erryone still bitching right?
The play was basically a Cooks bomb down the sideline.
Lets assume the pass ends up incomplete somehow.
Erryone still bitching right?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:00 pm to KindaRaw
thanks. it makes my blood boil
this is so fricking dumb. Your chances of making the first down on 4th and 6 are somewhere between 40% to 50%.
Even if everything went PERFECTLY with the dumb punting plan and you held them on 3 plays and their punter blows it and kicks a touchback, the best case scenario is that you get the ball back at your own 20 yard line with like 1:10 left and zero timeouts. That is a much worse scenario than having 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts left and converting a 4th and 6th.
fricking retards.
quote:
‘OK, here’s the scenario, we punt, we stop ‘em, use our timeouts, we get the ball back with 1:03, something like that.’ And you’re like, ‘OK, we like our chances there better than, all of a sudden if we miss that, then pretty much the game’s over.’
this is so fricking dumb. Your chances of making the first down on 4th and 6 are somewhere between 40% to 50%.
Even if everything went PERFECTLY with the dumb punting plan and you held them on 3 plays and their punter blows it and kicks a touchback, the best case scenario is that you get the ball back at your own 20 yard line with like 1:10 left and zero timeouts. That is a much worse scenario than having 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts left and converting a 4th and 6th.
fricking retards.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:01 pm to KindaRaw
quote:What kind of explanation is that?
“Yeah, that was a big discussion,” Brees said. “Hindsight, obviously, because they scored two plays later. But you know, you just feel like, ‘OK, here’s the scenario, we punt, we stop ‘em, use our timeouts, we get the ball back with 1:03, something like that.’ And you’re like, ‘OK, we like our chances there better than, all of a sudden if we miss that, then pretty much the game’s over.’
The aggressive CSP of yesteryear wouldn't have pulled that shite.
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