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re: Lattimore Trade Value Thread: Snead is likely being dealt
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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Look at his total snaps. Hasn't even hit 650 the past 2 years.
One of those years was due to a lacerated kidney after someone landed on him in the exact right spot. A freak accident. Hard to hold that against Lattimore as being “injury prone.”
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:00 am to St Stooge
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One of those years was due to a lacerated kidney after someone landed on him in the exact right spot. A freak accident. Hard to hold that against Lattimore as being “injury prone.”
I don't agree with lattimore being injury prone or a diva.
He does get nicked up more than u would like but I wouldn't say he is injury prone. Still only 27 with elite film.
He was playing some great ball before everything last yr. I think the saints can get a 2nd and some change for him in the right situation.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:08 am to Chalkywhite84
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I think the saints can get a 2nd and some change for him in the right situation.
No they won’t. Snead is a healthy probowl level type corner for a super bowl champion that went for a third and some other lower round pick. We would be lucky to get the same for Lattimore- thats just what NFL trade market is for corners. Whether he is injury prone or not- I’m not sure. The facts are hes played in only 17 games the past 2 years- that wont help his trade value.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:20 am to Chalkywhite84
Lattimore is easily our best player and I don't want to deal him. I'm not nearly as optimistic about the value as you are.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:35 am to Pels_Yaz
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No they won’t. Snead is a healthy probowl level type corner for a super bowl champion that went for a third and some other lower round pick. We would be lucky to get the same for Lattimore- thats just what NFL trade market is for corners. Whether he is injury prone or not- I’m not sure. The facts are hes played in only 17 games the past 2 years- that wont help his trade value.
Lattimore has put much more elite film out there. He also has elite traits.
The chiefs made it be known that they had zero intention of keeping sneed. The entire league knew.
Sneed didn't even get 20 mil a yr on his new contract.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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Lattimore is easily our best player and I don't want to deal him.
This is debatable. If we’re considering availability a case could be easily made for Demario Davis. If we’re talking pure talent you have to consider Olave or Kamara. I think Lattimore is talented but Adebo did a fantastic job last year as our primary number one corner.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:46 am to Chalkywhite84
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Lattimore has put much more elite film out there. He also has elite traits. The chiefs made it be known that they had zero intention of keeping sneed. The entire league knew. Sneed didn't even get 20 mil a yr on his new contract.
None of this changes his market. Like I said 17 games in past 2 years and its not a secret that Saints are trying to trade Lattimore as well. Jalen Ramsey who has “elite traits” and “elite film” was also traded for a third round pick. I don’t understand why peoole can’t understand that a third is the best Saints will get for Lattimore.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:48 am to Pels_Yaz
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If we’re considering availability a case could be easily made for Demario Davis.
off ball LB v. CB? C'mon
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. If we’re talking pure talent you have to consider Olave or Kamara.
Kamara...same argument as Davis. RB v. CB? C'mon
Olave could be in this discussion after this year, but he failed to take a step in year 2 and looks like a WR2 guy.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:50 am to Pels_Yaz
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None of this changes his market. Like I said 17 games in past 2 years and its not a secret that Saints are trying to trade Lattimore as well. Jalen Ramsey who has “elite traits” and “elite film” was also traded for a third round pick. I don’t understand why peoole can’t understand that a third is the best Saints will get for Lattimore.
Yeah Ramsey and Sneed should be telling. You can try to argue contract but the players at the time of trading were superior to Latt is today. And Ramsey was always better than Latt in basically every measurable way. Again, Sneed may lack the ceiling, but Latt hasn't hit that ceiling in years, so we may need to re-think his actual ceiling in 2024.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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off ball LB v. CB? C'mon
When it comes to availability- yes. Who cares if you have an elite corner if hes not available. Demario’s impact on this defense has been invaluable.
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Kamara...same argument as Davis. RB v. CB? C'mon Olave could be in this discussion after this year, but he failed to take a step in year 2 and looks like a WR2 guy.
Kamara scores tds, game breaker and if used properly can be a top ten back. And again he has played in 28 games last 2 years compared to 17 for Lattimore and Kamara was even suspended.
I disagree. Olave made ridiculous catches and when used properly was a stud. Problem was our off coordinator and qb. Some of the catches that Olave made to save Carr’s arse were absolutely incredible. With a good coord and competent QB- Olave is a number one.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 10:57 am
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yeah Ramsey and Sneed should be telling. You can try to argue contract but the players at the time of trading were superior to Latt is today. And Ramsey was always better than Latt in basically every measurable way. Again, Sneed may lack the ceiling, but Latt hasn't hit that ceiling in years, so we may need to re-think his actual ceiling in 2024.
Ramsey wanted a new contract and was a salary dump. I do agree that corners aren't getting what they used too. It will all come down to the team that truly wants him.
Ramsey also said he would only go to Miami. These trades aren't always the same. In the end I think the saints keep him this yr.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:19 am to Pels_Yaz
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Kamara scores tds
So did Jamal Williams
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:24 am to H-Town Tiger
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So did Jamal Williams
So Kamara is now Jamaal Williams?
Lol Carmichael and Carr really screwed with peoples’ perception of players.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:31 am to Pels_Yaz
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So Kamara is now Jamaal Williams?
No retard, it’s called a joke, however the point is scoring a bunch of TD does not automatically make someone the best player on the team.
I am in the camp that sees RB as a devalued position so while I appreciate Kamara as a great player I’m with SFP. If it’s a choice between the 2 I keep a lock down CB 100 out of 100 times.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:37 am to H-Town Tiger
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No retard, it’s called a joke, however the point is scoring a bunch of TD does not automatically make someone the best player on the team.
Yeah if thats the way you respond to people- I can assume anything you say is of little substance. You literally sound like a third grader. Enjoy your Sunday with your other 12 year old friends.
I’m sure you’ll react to this post with name calling as well. Just a heads up, learn to disagree with people in an adult manner if you actually want them to listen.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:56 pm to Pels_Yaz
Don't know about all that but Latt is the best CB the Saints have ever had.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:15 pm to chRxis
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i'm sure there are plenty of times he's could have gone out and played, but remained on the IR...
You’re sure?? How? You have no clue what his medical status is
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:26 am to goatmilker
Don’t disrespect Alex Molden like that.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:57 pm to jamal
quote:you can trade him for a 3rd or get a compensatory 3rd when he leaves.
If that’s the best we can do for Latt, just keep him.
but knowing us he'll walk we'll sign someone who we shouldn't and lose the 3rd anyway
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:51 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Snead is a healthy probowl level type corner for a super bowl champion that went for a third and some other lower round pick. We would be lucky to get the same for Lattimore- thats just what NFL trade market is for corners. Whether he is injury prone or not- I’m not sure. The facts are hes played in only 17 games the past 2 years- that wont help his trade value.
Lattimore has put much more elite film out there. He also has elite traits.
It’s a little of all this. Lattimore is the better player at his peak. But he’s inconsistent at times and sometimes isn’t the lockdown corner unless challenged by a great WR. They are the same age, but they are both coming toward the end of their peak years. Availability (injury or attitude) is also an issue.
You can want two 1st and a 2nd for Lattimore, but you aren’t getting it. A 2nd round pick is probably what you can get for him IMHO if he is traded.
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