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re: Jimmy Graham's return to the dome.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:18 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:18 pm to Chad504boy
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Keenan Lewis
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:22 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
Cute but it is an unfortunate reality as well. Our D proved to be a bit formidable when we were healthy and yet were still down many players early on. The loss of 4 corners with no pass rush and little LB help is just disastrous yet we're still competing.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:22 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
What's the difference between an excuse and an explanation in your eyes?
Do you think injuries have impacted our defensive performance? Can't wait to hear this.
Do you think injuries have impacted our defensive performance? Can't wait to hear this.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:25 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:You're going to try and sell me on the idea that injuries are responsible for fielding bottom 5 defenses in 4 of 5 seasons?
Do you think injuries have impacted our defensive performance? Can't wait to hear this.
Sorry, I'm not buying that
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:26 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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You're going to try and sell me on the idea that injuries are responsible for fielding bottom 5 defenses in 4 of 5 seasons?
Where did I try to sell that?
Please quote it.
I guess this is that part where you change an argument so that yours can stand up.
I'll help you out. I've seen a tremendous improvement in run defense this year outside of 1 game where, guess what, we were depleted with injuries. Crazy the impact it made in that game. No way having Breaux, Kikaha, Williams, etc healthy could help our pass defense
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:28 pm to TigerBait1127
its been quite shitty since victor butler got ingramed.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:34 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:I don't need to change anything because a bottom 5 defense in 4 of 5 seasons is all the argument I need
I guess this is that part where you change an argument so that yours can stand up.
I don't care what the excuse is this time, coaches/players are paid to do their job and do it well
Why does this defense need everything to go their way to put on a solid performance?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:35 pm to Chad504boy
Crazy how against Atlanta with Davison and Vaccaro (along with the others listed above) out we gave up 7 ypc, yet have only given up 3.6 in the rest of games.
No way losing those 2 players made an impact
No way losing those 2 players made an impact
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:38 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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don't need to change anything because a bottom 5 defense in 4 of 5 seasons is all the argument I need
Ah, so your argument is something I never claimed.
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don't care what the excuse is this time, coaches/players are paid to do their job and do it well ?
So you're including players in this when the majority weren't even on the team 5 years ago . Brilliant logic
Yea, and that job is harder to do when your best players are sidelined. It really isn't hard to grasp, and we saw the glaring difference it can make in 2 games this season
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Why does this defense need everything to go their way to put on a solid performance? ?
Where did I claim this?
Ah, that's right, I didn't.
There's a reasonable amount of injuries that should be expected in a season. We surpassed that in training camp
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:38 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Starting him in fantasy
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:44 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:The defense has been eviscerated in every single game they've played this year with maybe the slightest of exceptions in Kansas City
Yea, and that job is harder to do when your best players are sidelined. It really isn't hard to grasp, and we saw the glaring difference it can make in 2 games this season
Injuries are an excuse that I'm not buying because history shows the issue is much larger and there is zero reason to think it gets any better when two guys come back
Don't drink the kool-aid
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:46 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
They were playing fine until Breaux went down against Raiders and then loss of PJ hurt just as much. Ignore it all you fricking want. We'll be a very competent D when we get Ellerbe, Breaux, Rankins back and that's not including loss of Kikaha and PJ Williams.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:53 pm to Chad504boy
quote:And you're ignoring history
They were playing fine until Breaux went down against Raiders and then loss of PJ hurt just as much. Ignore it all you fricking want. We'll be a very competent D when we get Ellerbe, Breaux, Rankins back and that's not including loss of Kikaha and PJ Williams.
Ellerbe's dead to me and Rankins/Breaux are not going to stop this defense from being one of the worst for the 4th time in 5 years but it looks like they'll take advantage of already challenged offensive units to pad those numbers
But, I'll let you cling to those
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This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:54 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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The defense has been eviscerated in every single game they've played this year with maybe the slightest of exceptions in Kansas City
Yea, that's not true.
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Injuries are an excuse
I'll ask again what's the difference between an explanation and an excuse.
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history shows the issue is much larger
We've rebuilt this defense from the bottom, but the young talent isn't on the field...
We've literally seen the difference in play this year with and without certain players.
And it's not just a difference 2 players make (once again changing the argument to fit your narrative). It's the difference those 2 players make when your already down several players and your depth has been completely depleted
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:02 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:I'm not even sure we're watching the same team anymore
Yea, that's not true.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:03 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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I'm not even sure we're watching the same team anymore
So the defense didn't play well against the Giants?
Really?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:07 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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Awwww look, you did it twice
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:09 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:The Giants game had some of the worst defensive play calling I've ever seen
So the defense didn't play well against the Giants?
Combine some of the most obvious blitzes ever designed and DBs conceding 10 yards on every snap and you end up with poor defensive performances
The fumbles weren't forced because of expert technique, guys just hit the Giants and the ball popped out but that's not sustainable or coachable and they haven't done anything like that since
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:10 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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The Giants game had some of the worst defensive play calling I've ever seen
Combine some of the most obvious blitzes ever designed and DBs conceding 10 yards on every snap and you end up with poor defensive performances
So giving up zero touchdowns and forcing three turnovers is a bad defensive performance
Unbelievable
You're right, they were absolutely destroyed that game.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:10 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:And I'll keep doing it as long people keep talking about injuries as if that's some excuse for DBs not turning their heads around to look for the ball
Awwww look, you did it twice
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