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Ingrams Lack of Touches??

Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:10 pm
Ingram had 12 carries for 58 yards. 4.8 ypc

I would bet 10 of those 12 were in the first half.

It really seemed like Payton went away from him in the 2nd half and having a 14 pt lead in the 4th, you would assume they may try to get him the ball.

Did he get dinged or something, or was it Payton just being Payton??

Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Payton just being Payton


It's against his DNA to stay committed to the run.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:15 pm to
Typical Payton. If we had actually run the ball in the 4th quarter to eat the clock when we still had a 14 pt lead, then we probably win that game.
Posted by go4lsu
Luling
Member since Aug 2006
985 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:16 pm to
We scored 34 points with the play calling we had. I get what you are saying about trying to run more with a big lead, but that wasn't our problem yesterday.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:17 pm to
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Typical Payton. If we had actually run the ball in the 4th quarter to eat the clock when we still had a 14 pt lead, then we probably win that game.



We never had a 14 point lead in the 4th

It was 24-19 when we got the ball for the first time in the 4th. We needed points, unfortunately we were held to a FG on a stupid play call. Our other drive in the quarter was a TD when it was 27-27.

Time was never really an issue for Oakland
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:19 pm to
It helps to control the clock and keep their offense off the field
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278454 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:19 pm to
he had 2-3 good runs. Then 10 or so that didnt go over 3 yards. He wasn't really effective comparatively to what we were doing in the passing game
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1170 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:21 pm to
But at that point in the game scoring was not the important thing. Payton knew our liability on defense as well as the Raiders. We could've taken a 3 min rmdrive and turned into a 8 min drive then that completely changes the dynamic of the end of that game. My poiny is offensive play calling is just as important as defensive scheme and personnel when you are hanging on to win like that and Payton refuses to learn this. Yesterday has happened multiple times over the past 2 seasons.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Payton just being Payton It's against his DNA to stay committed to the run.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:23 pm to
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But at that point in the game scoring was not the important thing.


Scoring wasn't the important thing in a 5 point game?

quote:

We could've taken a 3 min rmdrive and turned into a 8 min drive then that completely changes the dynamic of the end of that game.


So we should get less first downs?

The ball didn't hit the ground (outside of penalties) until 2nd and goal from the 6

At what point were we in a position to just milk the clock and worry less about points?
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:25 pm to
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It was 24-19 when we got the ball for the first time in the 4th. We needed points, unfortunately we were held to a FG on a stupid play call. Our other drive in the quarter was a TD when it was 27-27.



I thought that brees was gonna walk in on that option keeper
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:25 pm to
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I thought that brees was gonna walk in on that option keeper



It was just odd. Ingram was way too shallow it seemed for the play.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:26 pm to
Runs for Ingram

First Half:
12
4
3
0
9
3
2

Second Half:
-1
3
17
2
4

ETA: Just a summary of when he got his runs and how he did on each carry
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:26 pm to
Dude gets a 17 yard run then immediately calls to have someone replace him.

Garbage.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:35 pm to
I don't know wtf CSP's problem is but Ingram should have been the man from late 3rd until end of regulation. Half arse slants, dumps, screens, power and delayed runs to Mark would have easily gassed Oakland's defense. Snead, Thomas and Cooks set it up beautifully. Sometimes this shite really feels like sabotage just like in BR! Constanly snatching defeat from the grasps of victory.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278454 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I don't know wtf CSP's problem is but Ingram should have been the man from late 3rd until end of regulation. Half arse slants, dumps, screens, power and delayed runs to Mark would have easily gassed Oakland's defense. Snead, Thomas and Cooks set it up beautifully. Sometimes this shite really feels like sabotage just like in BR! Constanly snatching defeat from the grasps of victory.




we punted with 12:00 left in the 3Q & didnt punt again the rest of the game.

we scored 2 TDs and attempted 3 FGs from that point on


your point is invalid
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:48 pm to
Obviously not since we lost. And committed a few too many mistakes from the sideline
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:49 pm to
Offense is not the problem though. Its the defense. More or less carries we are still the most prolific offense in nfl.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278454 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:51 pm to
just know that you couldnt be more wrong
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:03 pm to
I think bitching about the offense at all seems ridiculous. They were dominant. Brees was killing them. It worked.
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