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I mean, is anyone really that surprised?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:28 am
We knew it wasn't going to be pretty. We knew we had growing pains with a young team. Injuries haven't helped. Still hopeful for the future. But that future is next year.
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:33 am to geauxtigers87
Not surprised and not really hopeful for the future. I have no reason to believe that talent acquisition has improved. It's too early to judge 2016's draft, but 2015's draft and 2016's free agency already look really bad with few bright spots. It's depressing.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:33 am to geauxtigers87
This is the same shite we say every year. That long term future is going to be without the GOAT quarterback and we have no replacement in sight. We are wasting drew brees and it's not fair to him.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:34 am to geauxtigers87
No not surprised. This is the new normal now.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:35 am to Peazey
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but 2015's draft
I mean it isn't the best, but it is a lot better than what we're used to. Especially if you include Breaux in the discussion.
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2016's free agency
Why do you say this? I'm happy with Fairely and Robertson. Fleener hasn't been very good yet, but it looks like he'll find a spot in this offense.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:37 am to TigerBait1127
I feel more comfortable with Ireland around too
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:42 am to TigerBait1127
Even if Fleener works out, and he isn't looking good at all, it was a horrible decision for him to be our biggest free agent acquisition. Fairley looks good. Laurinaitus may be one of the worst starting linebackers in the league.
2015 draft
Peat is not good and was a very high draft pick. Kikaha may never be healthy. Anthony can't play the position we drafted him for and in general can barely get on the field. Those are our top 3 picks. 1 year in, and it isn't looking promissing.
2015 draft
Peat is not good and was a very high draft pick. Kikaha may never be healthy. Anthony can't play the position we drafted him for and in general can barely get on the field. Those are our top 3 picks. 1 year in, and it isn't looking promissing.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:46 am to Peazey
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Peat is not good and was a very high draft pick
Peat has played very well at LG, which will be his position. Might not be the best value and I hated the pick, but he's a long term starter on this team
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Those are our top 3 picks.
Well we did well after that (Grayson was the worst pick of the draft)
PJ Williams - looks like a starting corner
Davison - having a great year
Swann - looks good. Hopefully can come back from concussions. Not a poor draft pick
And then you add Breaux to that. I'm not ready to give up on Anthony either. Led the team in tackles as a rookie and looks good in flashes.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:47 am to geauxtigers87
A lot of us knew that this was a rebuild year, though some posters thought we were primed for a 10-11 win season.
You could tell by preseason this team wasn't very good, and that was with the starters playing. Now, decimated by injury, we are seeing how bad our depth is on the team.
I blame Payton/Loomis for the following:
1. Bad drafting for several years
2. Ignoring the O-line
3. Rolling with 2 UDFAs at cornerback should injuries happen (they did)
You could tell by preseason this team wasn't very good, and that was with the starters playing. Now, decimated by injury, we are seeing how bad our depth is on the team.
I blame Payton/Loomis for the following:
1. Bad drafting for several years
2. Ignoring the O-line
3. Rolling with 2 UDFAs at cornerback should injuries happen (they did)
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:50 am to LSUZombie
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3. Rolling with 2 UDFAs at cornerback should injuries happen (they did)
I don't get how you can put this on the front office. Going into the season we had
Breaux
Lewis
Williams
Swann
Wilson
You can only have so much depth at 1 position.
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2. Ignoring the O-line
Agreed, although it has worked out so far even with this past game.
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1. Bad drafting for several years
100%. FA has been even worse
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:06 am to TigerBait1127
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Well we did well after that
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(Grayson was the worst pick of the draft)
we did well after that except for the pick that was even worse. You are lying to yourself and desperate for any positive way to spin this. quote:
PJ Williams - looks like a starting corner
You do not start if you do not play.
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Swann - looks good. Hopefully can come back from concussions
You do not contribute if you do not play.
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Davison
One good pick so far.
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I'm not ready to give up on Anthony either.
Who is giving up on anything? What about "does not look good so far" do you not understand? You are lying if you say that he had looked fine for the investment so far. He could turn it around and being an optimist I am hoping for it, but the prognosis does not look good.
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And then you add Breaux to that
Great player. But let's break down what has been said so far. That makes it 2/8 including Breaux, maybe 3/9 if you include Murphy being a decent special teams contributer. That is the definition of "mostly bad with few bright spots." Which is exactly what I said. Sure, they didn't hit 0%, but is that really the standard you want to measure as a success?
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:18 am to Peazey
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we did well after that except for the pick that was even worse
Yes, almost like there are multiple picks in a draft. Crazy
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You do not start if you do not play.
So this freak injury makes him a bust and not part of the future? No, his injuries don't make him a bad pick at this point. That is hindsight
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You do not contribute if you do not play.
zero concussions at Georgia. Your logic is faulty
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That is the definition of "mostly bad with few bright spots." Which is exactly what I said. Sure, they didn't hit 0%, but is that really the standard you want to measure as a success?
We have a lot of potential starters and contributors to the future out of that draft.
Talent evaluation was not an issue in that draft. If you want to lose confidence in Ireland b/c of freak concussions to 2 players, go for it. That is silly
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That makes it 2/8 including Breaux
Peat - long term starter at G
Breaux - potential long term starter at corner
Williams - potential long term starter at corner
Davison - potential long term start at DT
Murphy - 7th round special teamer
So even leaving off Kikaha and Swann due to injury, while also ignoring what Anthony showed in his rookie season, getting long term starters out of a draft is a success. You draft on potential, and getting 4+ potential starters in a draft is a good thing. The only injury you can put on the front office is Kikaha.
The 2015 draft was not a bad draft. It had mistakes and it had positives.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:40 am to geauxtigers87
quote:No, and I dont understand the melt. I do get frustrated when we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. The first two games were and should have been winnable. Dropped passes by Fleener are inexcusable and Allen needs to sit Laurinitis in favor of a younger guy to get experience. If we're giving up points that is fine, we werent going to win many games anyway, but lets get some experience and build depth.
We knew it wasn't going to be pretty. We knew we had growing pains with a young team. Injuries haven't helped. Still hopeful for the future. But that future is next year.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:53 am to geauxtigers87
I said it in preseason, this could be the leagues worst team. Yeah injuries blah blah blah. 3 years now this D has been shite.
Team needs a new voice, new leadership. Just like the school up the road. Both should have been fired after last season.
I have very very little hope for the future with current regime. Yes they won a SB. 7 years ago now. Time to move on.
Team needs a new voice, new leadership. Just like the school up the road. Both should have been fired after last season.
I have very very little hope for the future with current regime. Yes they won a SB. 7 years ago now. Time to move on.
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