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How would you grade this offseason so far?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:33 am
Additions:
-Josh Scobee (1 yr $985,000)
-Coby Fleener (5 yr $36,000,000; $18,000,000 Guaranteed)
-James Laurinaitis (3 yr $8,550,000;$1,800,000 Guaranteed)
-Craig Robertson (3 yr $5,000,000; $1.965M gtd)
-Nate Stupar (3 yr $5,000,000, $? Guaranteed)
-Nick Fairley (1 yr $3,000,000)
Losses:
-Marques Colston (Released)
-Khiry Robinson (FA; Jets)
-Ben Watson (FA; Ravens)
-Brandon Browner (Released; June 1st designation)
-Jahri Evans (Released)
-David Hawthorne (Released)
-Ramon Humber (FA; Patriots)
Re-signed:
-Senio Kelemete (2 yr $2,700,000; $300,000 Guaranteed)
-Jamarca Sanford (1 yr, $965,000; $130k Guaranteed)
-Travaris Cadet (1 yr $840,000; $80k Guaranteed)
-Hoomanawanu (4 yr $5,266,310; $2,764,422 Guaranteed)
-Josh Hill (3 yr $7,500,000; $3,250,000 Guaranteed)
-Austin Johnson 1 yr $600,000; $0 Guaranteed)
-Luke McCown (2 yr $3,000,000; $500,000 Guaranteed)
-Sean Payton (5 yr, $45,000,000)
Tendered:
Tim Lelito ($1.67 mil, no compensation if signed to another team)
Let me know if I missed anything of significance, or if there are any errors in numbers/info. I left out some of the smaller deals like the Harris guy from the CFL.
I'd give it a solid B.
-We took care of most needs, which sets us up well for the draft.
-The Laurinaitis signing allows us to move Anthony to SLB, and Kikaha to Jack/rush DE, which should really benefit bother players, along with the entire defense.
-I, along with most people, was down on the Fleener deal due to the money received. My thought was that we would prohibit us from addressing the defense for the rest of the FA period. Now that we signed 2 LBs (3 if you count Stupar), and Fairley, I like the Fleener deal more. If he can come close the Graham's production, then that deal is a huge win.
-I like that we were able to make these moves without having to extend Brees. I wouldn't mind extending Brees this offseason, but I was afraid that we would extend him out of desperation for cap space this offseason, which would lead to a huge cap hit the next 3-4 years. I do still think he gets somewhere around an average of $25 mil for the next 3 years after this regardless, but it's better that we aren't negotiating out of desperation, IMO.
-This offseason would be slam dunk if we could squeeze in a vet OG. Stefan Wisniewski comes to mind as someone who could provide competition, at worst depth, and should come reasonably cheap at this point.
-I was really hoping to see an Armstead extension this offseason, but I'm not too worried about that as I'm sure it will get done sooner or later.
-Biggest needs going into the draft (interchangeable for the most part): OG, DT, DE, WR. Luckily, if all goes well, we should be able to take care of these in the draft.
-Josh Scobee (1 yr $985,000)
-Coby Fleener (5 yr $36,000,000; $18,000,000 Guaranteed)
-James Laurinaitis (3 yr $8,550,000;$1,800,000 Guaranteed)
-Craig Robertson (3 yr $5,000,000; $1.965M gtd)
-Nate Stupar (3 yr $5,000,000, $? Guaranteed)
-Nick Fairley (1 yr $3,000,000)
Losses:
-Marques Colston (Released)
-Khiry Robinson (FA; Jets)
-Ben Watson (FA; Ravens)
-Brandon Browner (Released; June 1st designation)
-Jahri Evans (Released)
-David Hawthorne (Released)
-Ramon Humber (FA; Patriots)
Re-signed:
-Senio Kelemete (2 yr $2,700,000; $300,000 Guaranteed)
-Jamarca Sanford (1 yr, $965,000; $130k Guaranteed)
-Travaris Cadet (1 yr $840,000; $80k Guaranteed)
-Hoomanawanu (4 yr $5,266,310; $2,764,422 Guaranteed)
-Josh Hill (3 yr $7,500,000; $3,250,000 Guaranteed)
-Austin Johnson 1 yr $600,000; $0 Guaranteed)
-Luke McCown (2 yr $3,000,000; $500,000 Guaranteed)
-Sean Payton (5 yr, $45,000,000)
Tendered:
Tim Lelito ($1.67 mil, no compensation if signed to another team)
Let me know if I missed anything of significance, or if there are any errors in numbers/info. I left out some of the smaller deals like the Harris guy from the CFL.
I'd give it a solid B.
-We took care of most needs, which sets us up well for the draft.
-The Laurinaitis signing allows us to move Anthony to SLB, and Kikaha to Jack/rush DE, which should really benefit bother players, along with the entire defense.
-I, along with most people, was down on the Fleener deal due to the money received. My thought was that we would prohibit us from addressing the defense for the rest of the FA period. Now that we signed 2 LBs (3 if you count Stupar), and Fairley, I like the Fleener deal more. If he can come close the Graham's production, then that deal is a huge win.
-I like that we were able to make these moves without having to extend Brees. I wouldn't mind extending Brees this offseason, but I was afraid that we would extend him out of desperation for cap space this offseason, which would lead to a huge cap hit the next 3-4 years. I do still think he gets somewhere around an average of $25 mil for the next 3 years after this regardless, but it's better that we aren't negotiating out of desperation, IMO.
-This offseason would be slam dunk if we could squeeze in a vet OG. Stefan Wisniewski comes to mind as someone who could provide competition, at worst depth, and should come reasonably cheap at this point.
-I was really hoping to see an Armstead extension this offseason, but I'm not too worried about that as I'm sure it will get done sooner or later.
-Biggest needs going into the draft (interchangeable for the most part): OG, DT, DE, WR. Luckily, if all goes well, we should be able to take care of these in the draft.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:36 am to mm2316
Based on our cap situation...if we can resign Lelito I really can not give it anything less than an A so far.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:38 am to mm2316
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Let me know if I missed anything of significance,
NM, missed it
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 9:39 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:38 am to Chad504boy
We will have to wait till the draft to get a true grade since we still have massive holes at OG, WR, DE, and DT
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:38 am to mm2316
Considering context (How little money we had to work with), I give this a B+/A-.
They've done a good job getting pretty solid vets and rebuilding depth with very little money to work with, and they have not fricked themselves long term.
A solid draft and this team is on the right track.
They've done a good job getting pretty solid vets and rebuilding depth with very little money to work with, and they have not fricked themselves long term.
A solid draft and this team is on the right track.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:38 am to Chad504boy
Under re-signed, I just got lazy and didn't feel like looking up how to spell his first name. I'll add it up there since you did the work for me.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:42 am to mm2316
quote:
-This offseason would be slam dunk if we could squeeze in a vet OG. Stefan Wisniewski comes to mind as someone who could provide competition, at worst depth, and should come reasonably cheap at this point.
Yeah if we could sign a vet with a pulse at OG to at least provide competition/depth, this offseason moves into the A- for sure for me, considering context.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:42 am to mm2316
February 2, 2016
Named Dan Campbell assistant head coach-tight ends coach,
Ronald Curry and Brendan Nugent offensive assistant coaches,
Peter Giunta senior defensive assistant coach,
Aaron Glenn secondary coach,
Joe Lombardi quarterbacks coach,
Dennis Allen defensive coordinator,
Dan Roushar offensive line coach and
Brian Young pass rush specialist.
Named Dan Campbell assistant head coach-tight ends coach,
Ronald Curry and Brendan Nugent offensive assistant coaches,
Peter Giunta senior defensive assistant coach,
Aaron Glenn secondary coach,
Joe Lombardi quarterbacks coach,
Dennis Allen defensive coordinator,
Dan Roushar offensive line coach and
Brian Young pass rush specialist.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:52 am to mm2316
I'm liking the mostly understated process. There haven't been any big splashes, and I like that because the big signings the last several years have blown up in our face. We just need to plug some glaring holes with low profile signings and set ourselves up to build through the draft. The exception is that at first I was a little wary of how much Fleener was paid. It turns out that it isn't comparatively to other TE's as much as I thought, but I'm still unsure about it. Also, we haven't gotten a depth guard signing, which is surprising.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:55 am to Chad504boy
With the little money to work with, A-. A+ was probably impossible to reach with almost no $.
I really hope that the Saints are able to work through this offseason without extending Brees. This will turn just a bit of leverage towards the team instead of Brees.
I really hope that the Saints are able to work through this offseason without extending Brees. This will turn just a bit of leverage towards the team instead of Brees.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:07 am to mm2316
Fairley is 1 year, $3 million
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:13 am to Hank Marducas
quote:
1 year, $3 million
hmmm, i wonder what ways one can make instant 3 million plus cap room...
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:14 am to Hank Marducas
Thanks. Not that I don't trust you, but do you have a link for the $3 mil? I haven't seen it anywhere yet, but I could have easily overlooked it.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:15 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:16 am to mm2316
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:18 am to partywiththelombardi
Thanks. I'm so used to not checking ESPN for the latest information, that I didn't even think to look there.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:19 am to mm2316
I went to read the comments section...it was disappointing.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 12:14 pm to mm2316
quote:
How would you grade this offseason so far?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 12:31 pm to mm2316
Probably a B. Get a guard...that ship may have sailed in free agency, though.
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