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re: Hot take: our players actually suck

Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:13 am to
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
3253 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:13 am to
Yeah, no.

Mahomes - yes
Allen - yes
Burrow - yes
Herbert - yes
Lamar - no
Hurts - maybe
Prescott - maybe
Tua - no
Stafford - no
Purdy - yes
Goff - no
Stroud - yes
Cousins - no
Aaron Rodgers - no
Trevor Lawerence - no
Russell Wilson - no
Jordan Love - no

Age, injuries, attitude, playing style all go into it.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14804 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Mayfield has a better passer rating than Patrick fricking mahomes


This seems like an anomaly because of how awful their receivers have been. I’d love to see it adjusted for drops.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:17 am to
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Age, injuries, attitude, playing style all go into it.


“Common sense”
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:22 am to
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like claiming Russell Wilson is better than Derek Carr?


Yea I'm really going out on a limb. Future hall of famer, super bowl champ, higher passer rating and more touchdowns than Carr! Even in Russell Wilson's worst years we are splitting hairs.

quote:

that the offensive line was “above average”


Coming into the year they were supposed to be great, got off to a poor start. Finished the year strong. I believe going forward they will be above avg.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:25 am to
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Lamar - no


He just won the mvp wtf

Yall are trolling me
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:27 am to
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Yea I'm really going out on a limb. Future hall of famer, super bowl champ, higher passer rating and more touchdowns than Carr! Even in Russell Wilson's worst years we are splitting hairs.


You forgot to mention “currently jobless”.

I don’t give a shite how good he was 5 years ago. We’re talking about right now.

quote:

Coming into the year they were supposed to be great, got off to a poor start. Finished the year strong. I believe going forward they will be above avg.


Hmmmm

Carr: Got off to a poor start, finished strong. “Below average”

Oline: Got off to a poor start, finished strong. “Above average”
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:27 am to
quote:

seems like an anomaly


No shite. Stats only tell you so much.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:34 am to
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No shite. Stats only tell you so much.


I hate to break it to you, but stats are undoubtedly more reliable than you “gut feelings”.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:38 am to
quote:

We’re talking about right now


Russell Wilson scored 4 more touchdowns than Carr. And he played two less games. Give me the guy who has actually won a playoff game.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:49 am to
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stats are undoubtedly more reliable than you “gut feelings”


With out a doubt. But with all statistics there are sources of error. Its more biased to exclude the sources of error and to claim that the raw stats represent reality to a T.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1934 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:41 pm to
I think I can break it down easier. The players in all positions groups are league average players. None are viewed as special and none are the dogs of the league.

These average players returned an NFL average win/loss record. They are what they are.

Looking forward, none of the players/groups have much more of higher play potential. Very few are young and could have some additional breakout, but not enough to elevate the whole team beyond average.
Posted by lsutigers23
Member since Jan 2009
661 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:05 pm to
I think Miller missing the season really hurt our offense, we didn’t have any running backs with speed and quickness, you could the difference in the last game of the season
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