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re: Future Saint Mario Williams officially released from Buffalo Bills
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:42 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:42 am to Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:44 am to Chad504boy
I wouldn't be opposed to it. We would still need to sign an OG in FA...but we could then draft a WR instead of a DE. It just depends on how much money we have to spend. It could work though.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:47 am to Chad504boy
It's possible but we have way too many holes to fill to give 1 guy 10 million a year who's very questionable. You see plenty of players fall off in performance permanently in just 1 year age difference. It would all depend on the deal and how fast the Saints could get out of it without being penalized dead money if he ends up being a bust.
I'm more in favor in taking our FA money and building on the strength of the team right now which is offense. Give Drew the line he deserves and another WR wth TE and they'll win us games themselves. You continue to build young on defense through the draft so by the time Drew is done so are all the veterans on offense and then you have a great defense for a young QB. Having elite offensive talent around a young QB can often be squandered until he learns the ropes so it's perfect to have an elite defense to ease him through.
I'm more in favor in taking our FA money and building on the strength of the team right now which is offense. Give Drew the line he deserves and another WR wth TE and they'll win us games themselves. You continue to build young on defense through the draft so by the time Drew is done so are all the veterans on offense and then you have a great defense for a young QB. Having elite offensive talent around a young QB can often be squandered until he learns the ropes so it's perfect to have an elite defense to ease him through.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:49 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:49 am to deuce985
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It's possible but we have way too many holes to fill to give 1 guy 10 million a year who's very questionable. You see plenty of players fall off in performance permanently in just 1 year age difference. It would all depend on the deal and how fast the Saints could get out of it without being penalized dead money if he ends up being a bust.
Don't get hung up on details brah, that's what GM's due. We signed Byrd to monster safety contract and it costs us like 4 mill year 1. We have more than enough reasonable space now and can still create more to make this and many more moves. This is an area of urgent need for us. Pressuring the QB wins championships, this isn't putting lipstick on a fricking pig.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:51 am to Chad504boy
FA moves like this are also why the Saints have been fricked and devoid of depth. Because they suck so bad at drafting they try to fill holes with high priced FA that don't work out. You then have weak drafts and massive holes. Cap trouble and a team that's lacking serious talent in many areas.
Might be smarter to start building on defense through a deep draft and find not top tier FA like Keenan Lewis who ended up being a steal at a bargain price. High priced FAs are too high risk for the Saints at this point and they're not working out.
Might be smarter to start building on defense through a deep draft and find not top tier FA like Keenan Lewis who ended up being a steal at a bargain price. High priced FAs are too high risk for the Saints at this point and they're not working out.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:52 am to Chad504boy
I don't always agree with you Chad, but i do in this regard. a large part of Marios issue in Buffalo was Rex and the staff just opting to not utilize him in the manner of which he should be.
i would be happy to see him in NO - could give us a decent pass rush for once.
i would be happy to see him in NO - could give us a decent pass rush for once.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:54 am to deuce985
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FA moves like this are also why the Saints have been fricked and devoid of depth. Because they suck so bad at drafting they try to fill holes with high priced FA that don't work out. You then have weak drafts and massive holes. Cap trouble and a team that's lacking serious talent in many areas.
Might be smarter to start building on defense through a deep draft and find not top tier FA like Keenan Lewis who ended up being a steal at a bargain price. High priced FAs are too high risk for the Saints at this point and they're not working out.
Nah, you sign Mario AND you draft a Shaq Lawson and you tell the league to eat these nuts, we're coming.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:55 am to Thracken13
Well, you have a coaching problem in New Orleans anyway. Look at where Hicks was rated in the NFL when he was traded to Patriots and for some reason Payton is reluctant to move on from his boys. Do you honestly trust this staff to utilize Mario to his strength? Am I the only one who watched how they used Browner in the scheme or even Byrd who is being used the complete opposite way when he was at his best in Buffalo?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:56 am to Chad504boy
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Nah, you sign Mario AND you draft a Shaq Lawson and you tell the league to eat these nuts, we're coming.
I like it.Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:58 am to deuce985
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Do you honestly trust this staff to utilize Mario to his strength?
Yes. We run a 4-3. He won't be dropping into coverage like he was in Buffalo. I understand people are concerned, but Mario is perfect for this defense(assuming we keep running a 4-3).
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:00 pm to GMoney2600
I'm just saying defense is a cluster frick in both talent and coaching. For all the faults Payton has as a coach he's still going to field a top 5 offense now matter how putrid they look at times. He's shown he can find plenty of offensive talent over the years. I trust them to make moves there in FA before defense.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:01 pm to deuce985
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trust this staff to utilize Mario to his strength?
You think Mario needs coaching or you think he just needs to be lined up on end and he does what he does? geesh, i don't get people sometime. Its one thing if you worried about a staff developing a player but mario is already developed and seasoned. he's an ideal fit, and may like playing with an organization and w/ a QB that has championship aspirations.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:02 pm to Chad504boy
Were you guys just now not bitching about him not being used right in Buffalo which is why his production fell off? You immediately assume Saints will use a 4-3 or even try to use him right?
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:03 pm to deuce985
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about him not being used right in Buffalo?
dude buffalo went to a 3-4 w/ rex and put mario as a standup edge guy dropping into cover and shite. He had 38 sacks in 3 yrs lined up as a 4-3 end.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:06 pm to Chad504boy
I know what he's capable of doing but you're forgetting who he's coming to. The Saints have misused players on their defensive scheme for years now. The staff is atrocious and they still haven't cleaned house there. Dennis Allen had Browner lined up 1on1 with no safety help plenty of times all season while he tried to use Byrd like Earl Thomas covering both sides of the field which nobody can do except Earl Thomas. I definitely believe the rumors he was the one developing the scheme as Ryan was slowly being shown the door because not a damn thing changed. He's a terrible DC.
You have to love how when players leave somewhere else they become more productive. Hmm. I wonder why?
You have to love how when players leave somewhere else they become more productive. Hmm. I wonder why?
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:27 pm to deuce985
all i got from you was rob ryan sucked.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 1:02 pm to deuce985
i see what you are saying Deuce985, but the biggest thing for me is that Williams thrived in a scheme like what we run for years, and only struggled when asked to drop into coverage.
if we stay 4-3, and bring him in - there really is not much for him to do other than what he did before Rex Ryan arrived in Buffalo.
to me we wouldn't be changing a whole lot from what he was used to - pass rush and eat people.
if we stay 4-3, and bring him in - there really is not much for him to do other than what he did before Rex Ryan arrived in Buffalo.
to me we wouldn't be changing a whole lot from what he was used to - pass rush and eat people.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:56 pm to Thracken13
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arge part of Marios issue in Buffalo was Rex and the staff just opting to not utilize him in the manner of which he should be.
well, that, and he completely quit on the team for long stretches. watch some bills tape and him loafing.
i thought the mario signing was great for buffalo, and that he played well there - but he mailed in long stretches last year.
should he have been dropped in coverage? no... but it happened rather minimally for the open defiance he showed.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:58 pm to Thracken13
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Williams thrived in a scheme like what we run for years, and only struggled when asked to drop into coverage.
go back and look at how little he was asked to do that though. PFF charted him as in coverage a total of 28 times for the entire season.
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