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re: ESPN ranks Top 15 QBs of all time...No Brees lol
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:23 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:23 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Montana not in the top 10? You must not have watched Saints games in the 80's.
Close, but finished off by Joe.
Close, but finished off by Joe.
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:23 pm to koLSU86
I would like to see Brees on the list but I can't say definitively who on that list doesn't belong.
ETA: Another problem for Drew is that he is, by most accounts, behind four QBs in his own era: Brady, Manning, Favre, and Rodgers. You would have to be seriously biased in favor of the current era to have him in the top 10 all time, though I still think there's a great case for him being in the top 15.
Examples from this list:
Bradshaw and Staubach were almost universally considered tops in their era.
Unitas clearly the best in his era. Ditto for Graham.
Montana and Marino tops in their era.
I think the best argument for Brees would be over the still-great Jim Kelly.
ETA: Another problem for Drew is that he is, by most accounts, behind four QBs in his own era: Brady, Manning, Favre, and Rodgers. You would have to be seriously biased in favor of the current era to have him in the top 10 all time, though I still think there's a great case for him being in the top 15.
Examples from this list:
Bradshaw and Staubach were almost universally considered tops in their era.
Unitas clearly the best in his era. Ditto for Graham.
Montana and Marino tops in their era.
I think the best argument for Brees would be over the still-great Jim Kelly.
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:10 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
quote:
Another problem for Drew is that he is, by most accounts, behind four QBs in his own era: Brady, Manning, Favre, and Rodgers. You would have to be seriously biased in favor of the current era to have him in the top 10 all time, though I still think there's a great case for him being in the top 15.
It kind of goes back to what another poster basically said, the only reason Brees does not get held in the same breath as the others is because he doesn't have an MVP. Even though he has played well enough to deserve at least 1. With that said, the only thing Farve will have over Brees is the 3 MVPs. They both have 1 SB win and Brees could very well have all of Farve's records once he retires.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:13 pm to sertorius
quote:
Also, why would anyone laugh at Kelly? Tarkenton?
Tarkenton should be laughed at for saying he "(I) can outplay anyone who's ever played the game" and claiming HE is the greatest. The real shocker is Staubach not in the top 10. If Brees would have stayed in San Diego I don't think we'd hear as much fuss on this particular forum.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:40 pm to TurkeysAndBees
quote:
If Brees would have stayed in San Diego I don't think we'd hear as much fuss on this particular forum.
Solid logic.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:52 pm to Weekend Warrior79
I agree with you, though I also have a sense being on more successful teams as a general matter. It's not just the one ring for Drew, it's also the fact that we haven't even been to the playoffs that often - a crime that isn't his fault, but when you're ID'ing the best 15 ever, you're going to have to slice some things thinly, especially when dealing with QBs from the same era.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 4:34 pm to WhySoSerious
quote:No.
He's for sure better than Unitas,
Posted on 2/2/17 at 4:35 pm to lesgeaux
quote:Really?
Rodgers does not belong ahead of Brees
Posted on 2/2/17 at 6:31 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
Montana and Bradshaw have no business being in the top 10.
lolwut
Montana has a claim as best QB ever. He was Brady before Brady became Brady.
quote:
Look at their stats (in comparison to Brees)
1. different eras
2. empty 7-9 season drew brees stats
Posted on 2/2/17 at 7:48 pm to GynoSandberg
"Empty stats" is garbage.
Dude does his job. Had a great season. Consistently completes passes at all ranges.
The other guys deserve their spots as well. But c'mon. Brees is the only reason we got to 7 and Bradshaw or Brady wouldn't have a single more win on THIS team.
Dude does his job. Had a great season. Consistently completes passes at all ranges.
The other guys deserve their spots as well. But c'mon. Brees is the only reason we got to 7 and Bradshaw or Brady wouldn't have a single more win on THIS team.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 6:13 am to koLSU86
Id have him ahead of tarkenton and kelly
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:50 am to koLSU86
Why in the hell would I go to this lib rag click bait schit!
Posted on 2/3/17 at 8:00 pm to koLSU86
Ridiculous
Posted on 2/3/17 at 8:00 pm to koLSU86
Stats show otherwise
Posted on 2/3/17 at 8:03 pm to bountyhunter
How would Bradshaw do under a 3 win Nola team?
Brees would win as many with that team
How many qbs would have the success Brees has had at Nola even against hof qbs.
Since joining the Saints in 06 until bounty gate like 2011 or so no other qb in the entire NFL had more wins than him. None.
Saints have had a hard time recovering from that yet Brees has been top 2 in just about every qb stat since then.
Brees would win as many with that team
How many qbs would have the success Brees has had at Nola even against hof qbs.
Since joining the Saints in 06 until bounty gate like 2011 or so no other qb in the entire NFL had more wins than him. None.
Saints have had a hard time recovering from that yet Brees has been top 2 in just about every qb stat since then.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 10:19 pm to koLSU86
The only one that's even debatable is him or Tark. And that's a toss up. The list is fine.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:29 pm to koLSU86
bullshite rankings based on Superbowls... 
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:39 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Well said.
People just need to realize this is rarefied air we are talking about.
Watched a lot of J Kelly in the day and he was legit. Would it even be a question if Norwood hits the chippy?
Tark is another right there along with Kelly that I think Brees is in a class with.
If this list was top 17...
People just need to realize this is rarefied air we are talking about.
Watched a lot of J Kelly in the day and he was legit. Would it even be a question if Norwood hits the chippy?
Tark is another right there along with Kelly that I think Brees is in a class with.
If this list was top 17...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:09 pm to emanresu
quote:Sounds like they put too much stock into team achievements to me. Drew Brees should absolutely be on the list.
Everyone on the list has either multiple SB wins
Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:05 am to koLSU86
I don't agree with Brady being #1
Sorry. Having the best team around you doesn't make you the best QB
Sorry. Having the best team around you doesn't make you the best QB
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