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Clock management question

Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:56 am
Posted by biglosdaddy
south louisiana
Member since May 2007
841 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:56 am
On the last drive we have it first and ten and we can take it to the 2 minute warning. Instead we call a run.

Why not take it down to the two minute warning? If you run on first down after you might force Atlanta to burn a time out.

I know we needed a touchdown, but I am in favor of bleeding the clock as much as you can and forcing the other team to burn their timeouts. That way, you don't leave a minute for them on the clock.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:46 am to
I feel like whenever you have a chance to burn clock past two minutes, run a play, and make the two minute warning actually a 1:55 warning, you do it.

I don't really remember what this situation was in particular, to be honest.

I think that scoring the TD when they did with 1:01 left was absolutely what you have to do. At that point, with this defense, you have to understand that scoring inside the two minute warning is advantageous and you have to do it when you feel it's time. There are no certainties, so if you call the pass you are going for the score. It's good management.

It was just a shitty play and assignment by Adebo. I really don't understand how the Saints allowed Adebo to be on one of the Falcons' biggest threats. CJGJ being out hurt all game, but in that situation you put Roby on Patterson, make sure Lattimore is covering wide and keep everything in front.

It's a bad loss. 5-3 heading into Tennessee is way worse than 6-2. This division is the Saints' to win this year, but you can't play down to shitbag opponents like Atlanta.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14857 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:52 am to
My issue was with stretching the ball. Go down at the one.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:01 am to
Absolutely not. Why? You have to take the TD whenever you get the chance. Do you and I and everyone else think the Saints would score there on the 1? Yes. Probably. But the more certain outcome is that Stills stretch and score.

Plus, that's asking a lot for a player. Their natural instinct is to stretch to score. Stills did everything right. I have no issue with that.

The defense not holding and really getting chewed up by Matt Ryan coupled with the blooper reel at WR and TE for the Saints yesterday is why they lost.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 9:03 am
Posted by wolftiger
Covington
Member since Feb 2006
530 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:25 am to
My issue was with going for 2. Yeah, if you get it Atlanta needs a TD to win. But if you take the gimme, a FG only ties it. At least you have a buffer and we can take momentum into OT. And, yeah, you gotta trust your defense, but why hamstring them with that added pressure?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:54 am to
When they scored the TD, that made it 25-24. The extra point meant nothing. The two-point conversion, if they got it, put the lead at 3, 27-24. Going for two was 100% the right move.
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
1964 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:10 am to
That Falcons player getting hurt actually saved them, it forced them to use a timeout when they weren't going to.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7968 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

That Falcons player getting hurt actually saved them, it forced them to use a timeout when they weren't going to.

This and not able to get the fumble was just dirty bird luck that every now and then plagues the Saints.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5319 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:13 am to
CSP does this type of thing all the time. Anyone remember the NFC Champ Game vs Rams? If CSP calls 3 runs, bleeds the clock, forces Rams to use their TOs. Then kick the FG with around 20-30 seconds left in the game & the Rams have to get into FG range with no timeouts.

What did CSP do? He calls 3 pass plays & of course the rest of that game is seared into every Saints fans brain forever!!!
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17967 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:08 pm to
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My issue was with going for 2. Yeah, if you get it Atlanta needs a TD to win. But if you take the gimme, a FG only ties it. At least you have a buffer and we can take momentum into OT. And, yeah, you gotta trust your defense, but why hamstring them with that added pressure?






Did you really just ask this stupid question? Damn where do they find people like you?
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