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Barnwell grades the trade B+ for saints, B for pats

Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:10 pm
Posted by el duderino III
People's Republic of Austin
Member since Jul 2011
2383 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:10 pm
Get off the ledge clowns. I think he should be flipped but it's far from trade rape. Those thinking any receiver in Payton's system was worth Butler and a first were fricking delusional
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6153 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:11 pm to
Well Barnwell's a dumbass, so there you go.
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3313 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:12 pm to
IF Cooks wanted out, we had to move him. Perhaps this was the best legit offer we had.

I'm ok with it,
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89988 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:15 pm to
And then you have this from Fox Sports, headline on their NFL page:

Thief! How Bill Belichick pulled another heist to get Saints speedster Brandin Cooks


It usually takes years to determine which team won or lost an NFL trade. There are dozens of variables that go into judging which side got the better of a certain deal. And then there are trades involving the New England Patriots, which can be evaluated by a fairly simple formula: Are you Bill Belichick? If the answer is no, then you’ve already lost.

The New Orleans Saints are the latest team to be fleeced by Belichick and the rich-getting-richer Pats. Like a cat burglar who strikes in broad daylight, the coach/GM pulled off another stunning heist on Friday, acquiring wide receiver Brandin Cooks for New England’s first-round pick in next month’s draft. (The teams also swapped triple-digit picks that involved the Pats moving down 15 spots into the fourth round.) In doing so, the Patriots get a 23-year-old speedster entering his prime and on the verge of superstardom, for the very low price of a high, but middling, pick that might as well be made with a coin flip.


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It’s not as if the Saints were duped, per se. Cooks has been on the market for weeks and involved in trade rumors with a handful of teams. New Orleans valued his contributions (back-to-back 1,110-yard seasons), but with a defense that’s ranked 24th or worse in eight of the past 10 years and is basically a sieve that negates Drew Brees’ high-powered offense, Cooks was an expendable asset to help the other side of the ball. It just so happens that other teams who were in on the sweepstakes (like Philadelphia) apparently weren’t prepared to part with their first-rounders, and the Saints came to the conclusion that No. 32 was the best they were going to do.

If Cooks plays anything like he has in his past two seasons, it’s a home run trade — like a vast majority of the 100+ swaps Belichick has made as Pats coach. (Martellus Bennett, Randy Moss and Wes Welker were all straight-up pass-catching thefts, and Belichick’s track record of knowing when receivers have passed their prime makes him seem like a clairvoyant.) Cooks will turn 24 at the start of the season and is now the sixth-youngest member of the Patriots, despite playing three years in the league. He’s a sure thing traded for a pick that’s anything but.


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Just a month clear of their fifth Super Bowl win, the Patriots are loading up for a title defense like no championship team in recent memory. They already signed Bills cornerback Stephon Gilmore, the top defensive back on the market, and now add Cooks to a transformed receiving corps that gets one of the league’s best downfield threats to go along with their reliable veterans who run crisp routes and can go over the middle.

And Belichick may not be done yet. One of the most notable parts of the Cooks swindle was who it didn’t involve. Cornerback and Super Bowl XLIX hero Malcolm Butler was widely assumed to have been included in any big trade the Patriots would make this offseason. Since he wasn’t, Butler likely will stay on the trade market if he signs his $3.9 million tender. One potential partner: The New Orleans Saints, again. In addition to pick No. 32, they also have the 11th selection in April’s draft. Surely Belichick can’t rob ’em twice.

Right?

Feb 2, 2015; Phoenix, AZ, USA; New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (left) and New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick during the Super Bowl XLIX-Winning Head Coach and MVP Press Conference at Media Center-Press Conference Room B. Mandatory Credit: Joe Camporeale-USA TODAY Sports 6 View Gallery
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Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33744 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Barnwell grades the trade B+ for saints


Awesome.

even had he shitted on it i wouldn't feel any different.

its not about the trade, I just don't think we can use it to our advantage come draft day.

that's my problem.

I almost feel like if we draft defense we will miss. And if pick offense instead we will hit but our D will remain suspect as hell
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10694 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:17 pm to
Bill Barnwell writes well, and that's why he's published. He really doesn't know football that well.
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:24 pm to
Barnwell's the same guy that floated the idea of cutting Brees so keep that in mind while you're sucking his dick
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59112 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

IF Cooks wanted out, we had to move him.


Why? What leverage could he possibly have had?
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:37 pm to
I'm okay with it just because I think Cooks wanted out
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11917 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:18 pm to
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I'm okay with it just because I think Cooks wanted out

Who gives a shite what the midget wanted. He was ours for 2 more years at minimum. Why not wait till closer to draft day? Why rush this? Tenn could've come around and offered #18. Maybe not but what was the rush, $800k? Really?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:40 pm to
Unfortunately, agree.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9438 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:43 pm to
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IF Cooks wanted out, we had to move him. Perhaps this was the best legit offer we had.


Honestly, just from what we saw publicly, it would have been an impossible locker room scenario. Imagine WR meetings, knowing they threw all that shade at each other. It would have been an internal shite show. And then Cooks would walk next season and we'd get nothing.

Instead we got a 1st rounder and 20 spots in the 3rd. No complaints.
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