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Att leastt we'lll gett too keepp Gregg Williamms noww
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:03 am
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:03 am
We can still win the Super Bowl AND keep our stud DC now that all the hoopla has died down!
I never really believed he was going to be interested in a HC job anyway but I think we're safe now (and his defense isn't the reason we lost to Dallas and TB either - it was our stagnant offense).
I never really believed he was going to be interested in a HC job anyway but I think we're safe now (and his defense isn't the reason we lost to Dallas and TB either - it was our stagnant offense).
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:04 am to AlejandroInHouston
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Att leastt we'lll gett too keepp Gregg Williamms noww
it's almost like he's as good as the talent he has on the field...
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that all the hoopla has died down!
Hoopla can also be referred to overhyped.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 11:31 am to Chad504boy
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and his defense isn't the reason we lost to Dallas and TB either - it was our stagnant offense).
Since when is giving up a 17 point lead considered "good defense". In the NFL, a defense should be able to protect a three score lead without too much difficulty.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:33 pm to AlejandroInHouston
I think Gregg Williams needs more defensive talent to work with, but I don't think he is going anywhere. Too many big names like Bill Cowher, M. Shanahan, etc. who are out there. And teams like St. Louis, Detroit, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, etc. who are not doing well just hired new coaches last year, so they are not going to get a new coach.
Who may be gone:
Bills need a new coach, but Williams isn't going back there. Redskins will need a new coach, but I don't think Williams goes there either. (Shanahan may get that job) Who else is looking, maybe the Bears, Raiders, Jags and Browns? Possibly the Cowboys, but I don't see Williams and J. Jones getting along.
Who may be gone:
Bills need a new coach, but Williams isn't going back there. Redskins will need a new coach, but I don't think Williams goes there either. (Shanahan may get that job) Who else is looking, maybe the Bears, Raiders, Jags and Browns? Possibly the Cowboys, but I don't see Williams and J. Jones getting along.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:36 pm to Early Cuyler
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Since when is giving up a 17 point lead considered "good defense". In the NFL, a defense should be able to protect a three score lead without too much difficulty.
We have scored less than 20 points exactly twice this season..the last 2 games. 17 point lead in the second quarter is not the same as the fourth. The Saints need to realize that they are going to give up points, so they need to try to score 50 every game regardless of how big the lead gets. People have ripped Belicheck for running it up for years but he knows this and knows the best way to keep his offense running is to keep it running.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:38 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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and his defense isn't the reason we lost to Dallas and TB either - it was our stagnant offense
uhhh, yes it was, if he would get his defense off the field then maybe our offense would have more time to be productive.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:40 pm to Big L
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We have scored less than 20 points exactly twice this season..the last 2 games. 17 point lead in the second quarter is not the same as the fourth. The Saints need to realize that they are going to give up points, so they need to try to score 50 every game regardless of how big the lead gets. People have ripped Belicheck for running it up for years but he knows this and knows the best way to keep his offense running is to keep it running.
I completely agree.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:45 pm to Big L
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We have scored less than 20 points exactly twice this season..the last 2 games. 17 point lead in the second quarter is not the same as the fourth. The Saints need to realize that they are going to give up points, so they need to try to score 50 every game regardless of how big the lead gets. People have ripped Belicheck for running it up for years but he knows this and knows the best way to keep his offense running is to keep it running.
this. he keeps the foot on the pedal and thats what the saints needed to do and start doing again.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:56 pm to AlejandroInHouston
So our defense giving up over 400 yards in the last two games had nothing to do win us losing
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:58 pm to Fgiord
yards <> points.
Our defense gave up 10 points yesterday.
Our defense gave up 10 points yesterday.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:58 pm to Fgiord
exactly. didnt we give up almost 500 yards to another rookie qb and a mediocre rb. im tired of our D making every run down running back look like all stars. the same can be said for the crappy qbs as well.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 1:59 pm to Fgiord
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So our defense giving up over 400 yards in the last two games had nothing to do win us losing
No. That's like saying a pitching staff that spreads out 10 hits and 4 walks but only allows 2 runs is to blame for a loss.
The offense needs to wake up and score. Bottom line.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:00 pm to BlacknGold
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exactly. didnt we give up almost 500 yards to another rookie qb and a mediocre rb. im tired of our D making every run down running back look like all stars. the same can be said for the crappy qbs as well.
Yards don't matter on the scoreboard. When the defense allows a 50 yard drive but intercepts the ball in the end zone that is a successful series. Bottom line. Nothing else matters.
They held Tampa to 10 points in regulation. That should be more than enough for the best offense in football.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:00 pm to Sophandros
Now stop using facts to support your silly little theory that the Def. only gave up 10 points.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:04 pm to AlejandroInHouston
the game should have been iced with chuck grant's pass deflection but the offense dicked around.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:05 pm to Fgiord
The D didn't play great of course, but they did do what they were designed to do when we spoke about them in the preseason. Minimize the damage and create turnovers. The offense didn't hold up their end
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:12 pm to BilJ
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Minimize the damage and create turnovers
I wouldn't call letting a running back who hasn't had a 100+ yard game since 2006 "minimizing damage"
Look I really don't give a shite that we lost...it happens. But what is more concerning is the fact that teams have found a formula for success. They are going to run the ball, run the ball, and then run the ball and unless we get off our arse (Be it greg williams & the D or Drew Brees and the O) then the possiblity of being a one and done is very real.
So maybe the offense didn't "do its job" by scoring 45 points a game...but the defense sure a shite didn't help matters out by leaking like a broken faucet.
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:35 pm to Early Cuyler
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Since when is giving up a 17 point lead considered "good defense". In the NFL, a defense should be able to protect a three score lead without too much difficulty.
Since when is holding a team to 20 points not enough for our offense to overcome?
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:39 pm to Early Cuyler
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I wouldn't call letting a running back who hasn't had a 100+ yard game since 2006 "minimizing damage"
What would you call holding that team to 10 points?
Posted on 12/28/09 at 2:50 pm to TigerBait1127
Last I checked...the score was 20 to 17. So holding that team to 10 points would've been great; but we "held" them to 20 points and lost.More importantly we "held" them to a paltry 176 rushing yards.
ETA: I'm not here to argue with you about which side of the ball played shittier against TB. But to sit here and say that it's only the offensive side's fault because they didn't score enough is BS.
ETA: I'm not here to argue with you about which side of the ball played shittier against TB. But to sit here and say that it's only the offensive side's fault because they didn't score enough is BS.
This post was edited on 12/28/09 at 2:53 pm
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