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Andrew Luck signs 5 year extension: $75 mill over first three years

Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted this in the MSB, but thought you guys may want to know as well.

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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:50 pm to
yeah, that's fairly steep. I was hoping we'd get a deal in 23.3 ish range but maybe 25 is for sure needed now.
Posted by uptownsage
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:24 pm to
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yeah, that's fairly steep. I was hoping we'd get a deal in 23.3 ish range but maybe 25 is for sure needed now.


Paying top dollar for a car that is 11 years older, has had a significant rebuild, and has tons more miles? Maybe Brees will come with an extended warranty?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:24 pm to
Oh well...
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Paying top dollar for a car that is 11 years older, has had a significant rebuild, and has tons more miles? Maybe Brees will come with an extended warranty?



yes but that car still kicks the other cars arse.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:38 pm to
Irsay: Luck’s deal worth $140 million over six years

Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2016, 4:06 PM EDT

NBC Sports

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The Colts and quarterback Andrew Luck managed to conceal from the media Luck’s new deal until it was announced by owner Jim Irsay. They won’t be able to conceal every dollar and cent paid to Luck.

Inevitably, the contract will be filed with the NFL and the NFL Players Association, and the details will be leaked not by the Colts or Luck’s camp but by someone with routine access to all player contract.

The key factors to assess will be the signing bonus, the full guarantee at signing, and the cash flow over the first three years.

For now, the total value has been announced, also by Irsay: Six years, $140 million. That’s an average in total value of $23.3 million and a “new money” average of $24.7 million.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that $87 million is guaranteed, but it’s highly, highly, highly (did I say highly?) unlikely that $87 million is fully guaranteed at signing. At best, Luck has $87 million guaranteed for injury.

The deal is solid, but hardly the “shocking” transaction Irsay once promised. The only real surprise is that Luck didn’t get to $25 million per year in total value, which given cap growth over the past few years is where the top value for quarterback deals should be.

Luck also wasn’t able to tie his salary in the out years to cap growth (it’s unclear if his agents even tried), meaning that at some point over the next six years, if the cap keeps spiking, the deal won’t look nearly as good as it does now.

Bottom line? Luck didn’t push for every penny he could have gotten, trading six years and $140 million for the $114 million or so he could have made by going year to year under the franchise tag through 2019.

For now, the biggest question is when, as a practical matter, he’ll be a year-to-year deal with the Colts — and how much he’ll pocket before he gets to that point.


Luck gets $44 million fully guaranteed at signing

Posted by Zac Jackson on June 29, 2016, 5:06 PM EDT

NBC Sports

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It was a matter of when, not if, Colts quarterback Andrew Luck would get a really big contract.

That day was Wednesday.

Per a source, Luck got a $32 million signing bonus on the extension that keeps him with the Colts through 2021. With his 2016 base salary set to be $12 million, Luck gets $44 million fully guaranteed at signing.

Colts Owner Jim Irsay announced the deal at $140 million over six years. That means Luck will be the league’s highest-paid player and will make an average of about $23.3 million per year over the duration of the contract.

Luck said in a team statement he was “thrilled and excited” to get the deal done.

This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:41 pm to
And in the sports world, we pay for what the car HAS done, not what it WILL do.






























Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:43 pm to
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That’s an average in total value of $23.3 million


Yeah let's go with that.
Posted by Mrwhodat
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:57 pm to
The full Andrew Luck contract

Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2016, 5:36 PM EDT

NBC Sports

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Colts quarterback Andrew Luck would have made $16.155 million in 2016, the last year of his rookie deal. He traded it in for a six-year, $140 million contract.

But those broad numbers never tell the whole story, unless and until a contract like that is fully guaranteed. PFT has obtained a copy of the Luck’s entire contract, and here’s the breakdown:

1. Signing bonus of $32 million, with $18 million paid in the next 10 days and the remaining $14 million paid on March 31, 2017;

2. Base salary of $12 million in 2016, fully guaranteed at signing;

3. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2017 league year and paid on March 20, 2017, which is guaranteed for skill and injury, and conditionally guaranteed for salary cap;

4. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2017 league year and paid on September 18, 2017, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing;

5. $7 million base salary for 2017, guaranteed for injury only at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year;

6. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2018 league year and paid on March 20, 2018, which is guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year;

7. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2018 league year and paid on September 18, 2018, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing;

8. $12 million base salary for 2018, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing but which becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2018 league year;

9. $6 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2019 league year and paid on March 18, 2019, which is guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2018 league year;

10. $6 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2019 league year and paid on September 17, 2019, which is guaranteed for injury at signing;

11. $9.125 million base salary for 2019, non-guaranteed;

12. $11 million roster bonus due on the third day of the 2020 league year, with half paid on September 15, 2020 and the other half paid on December 15, 2020;

13. $11 million base salary for 2020, non-guaranteed;

14. $10 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the 2021 league year, with half paid on September 14, 2021 and the other half paid on December 14, 2020; and

15. $11 million base salary for 2021, non-guaranteed.

That’s a total of six years, $139.125 million, with $44 million fully guaranteed at signing. Another $16 million becomes fully guaranteed, as a practical matter, as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year.

At signing, $87 million is guaranteed for injury.

The cash flow breaks down like this: $44 million in 2017; $57 million through 2018; $75 million through 2018; $96.125 million through 2019; $118.125 million through 2020; $139.125 million through 2021.

It’s an average value of $23.1875 million per year, with $24.594 million per year in so-called “new money.”

The cap numbers are: (1) $18.4 million in 2016; (2) $19.4 million in 2017; (3) $24.4 million in 2018; (4) $27.525 million in 2019; (5) $28.4 million in 2020; and (6) $21 million in 2021.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:22 pm to
Not seeing the problem. Jazzy said Drew wanted 30. Luck in his prime got less than 25 which was always IMO the Drew max if he killed 2016. Win Win for everyone IMO but the Brees/Condon families.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:59 pm to
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Jazzy said Drew wanted 30.


Posted by El Campo Tiger
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:54 pm to
Wrong forum.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21332 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:34 am to
Wrong. Its related in the fact that brees is due a new contract. The numbers are a gauge, so there is a relation. He just should have put N/S in thread title.
Posted by jdutto3
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:45 am to
Correct forum because we have our own franchise QB to sign in the next year. This sets the market going forward.

Luck's contract will cost the Colts approximately 13% of the teams overall cap space (approx $20 of $155 Mil total). This is nothing considering they will be contenders for the next five years guaranteed.

NFL formula is simple but very hard to put in practice. 1) Find a QB. 2) Build team around QB.

Of course there is the argument that you pay professional sports players for what they are going to do not what they have done. I would put forward this applies to all positions in all sports except NFL QBs.

Plenty of examples:
-The Browns have had more top picks than anyone in the NFL over the past few years. They haven't found a QB and look how that's working for them.
-Same for Jags
-Look how much the Texans just paid for an unproven QB. Desperate for a QB.
-Compare the Cardinals record with/without Carson Palmer. Great team but w/out a QB they are a fringe playoff team.
-same argument for Jets, Bills, Texans. Great D but no QB.
-How did the Cowboys do last year without Romo?
-Look at what the Redskins gave away to draft Griffin and Eagles to draft Carson Wentz

In the NBA you can not win a championship without multiple star players. In the MODERN NFL you can not win a Superbowl without a QB, even with an elite roster.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 10:46 am
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

In the NBA you can not win a championship without multiple star players. In the MODERN NFL you can not win a Superbowl without a QB, even with an elite roster. 


Manning was far from elite last year. He wasn't even average. They could have won with David Carr playing QB.

Oh, and Bortles is not garbage, so don't discount him (you referenced Jville).
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:14 pm to
I'd say Drew has a ton of leverage on the Saints anyway. I don't think the 30 million a year is impossible because if he hits open market I guarantee a shitty team with tons of cap would be more than willing to hand it out to him even if he's aging. That's a risk the Saints probably shouldn't take but realistically he'll probably get around 24-25 million, IMO. Maybe he'll get more guaranteed money or something and he takes a similar deal that Luck got there.

I think it's going to come down to how much he's willing to stay with the Saints vs. maximizing his market because I can about guarantee the bidding war for him would inflate the shite out of QB contracts. If he was smart he'd let himself hit FA and force the Saints to give him what he wants. Might seem selfish but oh well. Saints have no leverage at all in these deals. You can't franchise tag him, Benson is on another planet, your team is shite and the FA market is begging for someone like Brees on it. Going to come down to how much he loves it here and how unwilling he is to leave for a little more money. He'll get more money if he's open to it than the Saints will give, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 1:20 pm
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