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2017 Annual NFL Mock Draft Database (Updated 4/19/17)
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:58 am
Well it's that time of year again, the time of uncertainty, hope & excitement waiting for that day to get here to see who will be the newest members of the Who Dat Nation. Personally my favorite time of the year on this board. We all have our opinions on who they should draft and who we want them to draft.
Well every year we have 13 million post on this and that mock draft saying this and that, well I'm making this thread in hopes of keeping the mock drafts here in this one thread. Here are some of the top Mock Draft databases around, if you have any more let me know and I will add them to the OP.
2017 NFL Draft April 27th - 29th
1st Round Thursday April 27th
2nd & 3rd Round Friday April 28th
4th - 7th Round Saturday April 29th
Saints Draft Picks
1st Round: Pick #11 & #32
2nd Round: Pick #42
3rd Round: Pick #76 & #103
6th Round: Pick #196
7th Round: Pick #229
The Mock Draft Databases:
Walter Football Database
NFL.com Database
CBS Sports Database
Draft Ace
Draft Trade Value Chart
Mock Draft Scores
Draft Rumors/Player Interviews:
Walters Football
SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit. Prospect making a local visit.
PRI - Private visit. Prospect making an official 30 visit.
WOR - Private Workout. Members of an organization working out a player in private.
STM - Some Type of Meeting.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2016 Senior Bowl or the 2016 East-West Shrine Game
Here's Hoping We Draft The Player You Covet Most...
The next post are some of our most mocked players as of now:
Well every year we have 13 million post on this and that mock draft saying this and that, well I'm making this thread in hopes of keeping the mock drafts here in this one thread. Here are some of the top Mock Draft databases around, if you have any more let me know and I will add them to the OP.
2017 NFL Draft April 27th - 29th
1st Round Thursday April 27th
2nd & 3rd Round Friday April 28th
4th - 7th Round Saturday April 29th
Saints Draft Picks
1st Round: Pick #11 & #32
2nd Round: Pick #42
3rd Round: Pick #76 & #103
6th Round: Pick #196
7th Round: Pick #229
The Mock Draft Databases:
Walter Football Database
NFL.com Database
CBS Sports Database
Draft Ace
Draft Trade Value Chart
Mock Draft Scores
Draft Rumors/Player Interviews:
Walters Football
SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit. Prospect making a local visit.
PRI - Private visit. Prospect making an official 30 visit.
WOR - Private Workout. Members of an organization working out a player in private.
STM - Some Type of Meeting.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2016 Senior Bowl or the 2016 East-West Shrine Game
Here's Hoping We Draft The Player You Covet Most...
The next post are some of our most mocked players as of now:
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 9:41 am
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:58 am to Meateye
Most Mocked To Us As Of Now
Derek Barnett / DE / Tennessee / 6'3" / 259LBS.
Analysis:
Strengths: Championship hand fighter on college level. Hands are strong, fast, efficient and lethal. Punch-and-discard winner. As rusher, swats are well-timed discarding tackle's punch attempt. Attacks the edge with good forward lean and works hands and feet in harmony on road to the quarterback. Uses jab steps and lateral movement to search for the edge of the blocker. Has leverage and strength to play right through redirects. Elite production on par with former Vol and Hall of Famer Reggie White against run and as sack artist. Not content to just set the edge -- wants to make the play. Uses hand fighting and play strength to work through leverage points. Long strider who can crash down the line to challenge gap plays if unblocked. Punishing hitter. Delivers crushing tackles and sacks when given the opportunity. Hustle player who pursues the play with intent. Rag-dolls tight ends at point of attack. Plus field awareness recognizing play-action, reverses, and screens. Fluid enough to drop into space and play some zone.
Weaknesses: Admitted slow starter who has had issues with sluggishness to start a season. Will overthink it at times rather than just reacting. Can be undisciplined with guessing snap count and taking penalties. Change-of-direction issues typical of a broad-waisted big man. Struggles to redirect movements suddenly once momentum starts rolling downhill. Quarterbacks with pocket mobility can elude him. Substantially more twitch in hands than in feet. Feet are average. Initial burst upfield is average. Times snap count to help with his get-off. Aggressive forward charge opens him up to cut blocks. Long stride creates base inconsistencies at point of attack. Length is a concern. Can he still win without decisive, early victories with his hands? Loops to quarterback are rounded and might need a winning, inside counter move as a pro.
NFL Comparison: Nick Perry
Bottom Line: Strong edge presence with NFL-caliber hand usage and play strength. Barnett is one of the most productive defensive linemen to come out of the SEC in quite some time despite lacking the length and twitch that teams usually look for off the edge. His awareness and play traits should keep him near the action and he has the talent to step into a starting base end spot right away. There could be coordinators who view him as an early down, outside backer in a 3-4 with the ability to put his hand in the ground on sub packages.
Solomon Thomas / DE / Stanford / 6'3" / 273LBS.
Analysis:
Strengths: Angular build, well-built frame. His mother, father and uncle were all collegiate athletes. Lined up at multiple positions. Has ravenous approach to the game. Gets out of the blocks quickly and attacks with early, skilled hands. Stays hungry and wants to feast. Powerful for his size. Shows ability to win with power or quickness. Outstanding athleticism. Fluid in his play. Transitions from move to move. Unpredictable pass rush. Attacks both the edges and can crank up a bull rush. Uses swipes, rips and arm-over to unlock his rush. Hands and feet work in unison. Has lightning-quick spin move he can access to unhinge from block and find new life in his rush. Violent disengagements from blocks leave no doubt blocker is whipped. Relentless approach combined with athleticism makes block recoveries extremely difficult in run or pass. Refuses extended engagements to blockers and works himself free. Will sniff out gaps and make himself skinny into the backfield. Very good pursuit speed and range as playmaker.
Weaknesses: Considered a "tweener" by scouts, who believe he could struggle to keep enough weight on his frame to play along interior. Length is below average as five-technique. Plays with inconsistent pad level. Needs to get bigger and stronger through his lower body. Tends to play taller as play rolls along and can get washed out of plays by strong down blocks. Hands are quick but need more consistent pop behind them. Overall play strength can be improved. "Big and strong" across from him causes some issues. Gets engulfed at times. Snap-count guesser with seven offsides penalties in 2016.
NFL Comparison:Justin Smith
Bottom Line: Explosive defender who combines strength, quickness, and a muscle-car motor to drive him around the field making play after play. Has the hands and feet to be a quick-win specialist and the size to fit as a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end who can reduce inside for pass-rush downs. He has all the athletic traits to become a high-impact player and possesses more than enough skill and talent to believe he will continue to elevate his game as a pro. Thomas has the potential to become the best defender from this draft class and a future all-pro.
Taco Carlton / DE / Michigan / 6'6" / 277LBS.
Analysis:
StrengthsRare combination of size, length and athletic traits as a rusher. Long-levered frame with athletic, knotted calves. Brings freaky athletic traits to table and is still growing into his body. Flashes instant reaction time off snap and up the field thanks to his twitch. Has enough upfield juice to push offensive tackles into hasty retreat. Generates pop through speed-to-power element. Very good flexibility throughout. Able to sink and swerve around corner if he gets early lead in race to the edge. Possesses hip swivel combined with shoulder turn to slip and flip around the corner of an offensive tackle he's engaged with as a pass rusher. Rushes with forward lean that keeps his momentum downhill. Uses rip-and-stab move and an ominous spin move that could turn into a dominant rush trait in the NFL. Elongated lateral slides can open into sprint very quickly to chase run play bouncing outside. Length gives him a shot at dramatically increasing his play-making ability against the run. Hand usage is improving.
Weaknesses: Despite talent and traits, production and overall play has been uneven at Michigan. Earned full-time starting nod in just his final season. Needs more weight-room work. Consistency of anchor at point of attack in question. Can be rooted out of his gap by power. Can do better job of using his length to keep blockers off of him. Doesn't make enough plays on other side of the line against run. Needs to show a nastier play demeanor at all times. Scouts question whether he has enough toughness for trench battles if bumped inside or to 5-technique. Held back by his inconsistent play speed. Excessive leaning and narrowing of his base during the play causes balance and footwork inconsistencies. Needs better readiness to take on move blockers.
NFL Comparison: Chandler Jones
Bottom Line: "Inconsistent" has been the buzzword that has followed Charlton since coming to Michigan, but he began the process of shaking it during his senior season. Charlton is an ascending prospect with the size, length, athleticism and pass-rushing potential that NFL general managers dream of. What you see today might not be what you get. While his production coming out of college will be modest, he could become a substantially better player as a pro if he's committed to the weight room and willing to absorb coaching.
Derek Barnett / DE / Tennessee / 6'3" / 259LBS.
Analysis:
Strengths: Championship hand fighter on college level. Hands are strong, fast, efficient and lethal. Punch-and-discard winner. As rusher, swats are well-timed discarding tackle's punch attempt. Attacks the edge with good forward lean and works hands and feet in harmony on road to the quarterback. Uses jab steps and lateral movement to search for the edge of the blocker. Has leverage and strength to play right through redirects. Elite production on par with former Vol and Hall of Famer Reggie White against run and as sack artist. Not content to just set the edge -- wants to make the play. Uses hand fighting and play strength to work through leverage points. Long strider who can crash down the line to challenge gap plays if unblocked. Punishing hitter. Delivers crushing tackles and sacks when given the opportunity. Hustle player who pursues the play with intent. Rag-dolls tight ends at point of attack. Plus field awareness recognizing play-action, reverses, and screens. Fluid enough to drop into space and play some zone.
Weaknesses: Admitted slow starter who has had issues with sluggishness to start a season. Will overthink it at times rather than just reacting. Can be undisciplined with guessing snap count and taking penalties. Change-of-direction issues typical of a broad-waisted big man. Struggles to redirect movements suddenly once momentum starts rolling downhill. Quarterbacks with pocket mobility can elude him. Substantially more twitch in hands than in feet. Feet are average. Initial burst upfield is average. Times snap count to help with his get-off. Aggressive forward charge opens him up to cut blocks. Long stride creates base inconsistencies at point of attack. Length is a concern. Can he still win without decisive, early victories with his hands? Loops to quarterback are rounded and might need a winning, inside counter move as a pro.
NFL Comparison: Nick Perry
Bottom Line: Strong edge presence with NFL-caliber hand usage and play strength. Barnett is one of the most productive defensive linemen to come out of the SEC in quite some time despite lacking the length and twitch that teams usually look for off the edge. His awareness and play traits should keep him near the action and he has the talent to step into a starting base end spot right away. There could be coordinators who view him as an early down, outside backer in a 3-4 with the ability to put his hand in the ground on sub packages.
Solomon Thomas / DE / Stanford / 6'3" / 273LBS.
Analysis:
Strengths: Angular build, well-built frame. His mother, father and uncle were all collegiate athletes. Lined up at multiple positions. Has ravenous approach to the game. Gets out of the blocks quickly and attacks with early, skilled hands. Stays hungry and wants to feast. Powerful for his size. Shows ability to win with power or quickness. Outstanding athleticism. Fluid in his play. Transitions from move to move. Unpredictable pass rush. Attacks both the edges and can crank up a bull rush. Uses swipes, rips and arm-over to unlock his rush. Hands and feet work in unison. Has lightning-quick spin move he can access to unhinge from block and find new life in his rush. Violent disengagements from blocks leave no doubt blocker is whipped. Relentless approach combined with athleticism makes block recoveries extremely difficult in run or pass. Refuses extended engagements to blockers and works himself free. Will sniff out gaps and make himself skinny into the backfield. Very good pursuit speed and range as playmaker.
Weaknesses: Considered a "tweener" by scouts, who believe he could struggle to keep enough weight on his frame to play along interior. Length is below average as five-technique. Plays with inconsistent pad level. Needs to get bigger and stronger through his lower body. Tends to play taller as play rolls along and can get washed out of plays by strong down blocks. Hands are quick but need more consistent pop behind them. Overall play strength can be improved. "Big and strong" across from him causes some issues. Gets engulfed at times. Snap-count guesser with seven offsides penalties in 2016.
NFL Comparison:Justin Smith
Bottom Line: Explosive defender who combines strength, quickness, and a muscle-car motor to drive him around the field making play after play. Has the hands and feet to be a quick-win specialist and the size to fit as a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end who can reduce inside for pass-rush downs. He has all the athletic traits to become a high-impact player and possesses more than enough skill and talent to believe he will continue to elevate his game as a pro. Thomas has the potential to become the best defender from this draft class and a future all-pro.
Taco Carlton / DE / Michigan / 6'6" / 277LBS.
Analysis:
StrengthsRare combination of size, length and athletic traits as a rusher. Long-levered frame with athletic, knotted calves. Brings freaky athletic traits to table and is still growing into his body. Flashes instant reaction time off snap and up the field thanks to his twitch. Has enough upfield juice to push offensive tackles into hasty retreat. Generates pop through speed-to-power element. Very good flexibility throughout. Able to sink and swerve around corner if he gets early lead in race to the edge. Possesses hip swivel combined with shoulder turn to slip and flip around the corner of an offensive tackle he's engaged with as a pass rusher. Rushes with forward lean that keeps his momentum downhill. Uses rip-and-stab move and an ominous spin move that could turn into a dominant rush trait in the NFL. Elongated lateral slides can open into sprint very quickly to chase run play bouncing outside. Length gives him a shot at dramatically increasing his play-making ability against the run. Hand usage is improving.
Weaknesses: Despite talent and traits, production and overall play has been uneven at Michigan. Earned full-time starting nod in just his final season. Needs more weight-room work. Consistency of anchor at point of attack in question. Can be rooted out of his gap by power. Can do better job of using his length to keep blockers off of him. Doesn't make enough plays on other side of the line against run. Needs to show a nastier play demeanor at all times. Scouts question whether he has enough toughness for trench battles if bumped inside or to 5-technique. Held back by his inconsistent play speed. Excessive leaning and narrowing of his base during the play causes balance and footwork inconsistencies. Needs better readiness to take on move blockers.
NFL Comparison: Chandler Jones
Bottom Line: "Inconsistent" has been the buzzword that has followed Charlton since coming to Michigan, but he began the process of shaking it during his senior season. Charlton is an ascending prospect with the size, length, athleticism and pass-rushing potential that NFL general managers dream of. What you see today might not be what you get. While his production coming out of college will be modest, he could become a substantially better player as a pro if he's committed to the weight room and willing to absorb coaching.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:47 am to Meateye
Been reading up on him I really like him in the third
DE Jordan Willis/Kansas State/6'4"/255
40 YD DASH: 4.53
BENCH PRESS: 24 REPS
VERT. JUMP: 39IN
Broad Jump: 125 IN
3-Cone: 6.85
20 YD Shuttle: 4.28
Overview
Long-time Kansas State head coach Bill Snyder called Willis "the epitome" of Kansas State football. That's high praise from a Hall of Fame coach who has led the program all but three years since 1989. Willis earned that praise with his play on the field and attitude off of it. He was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year in 2016 and also garnered third-team Associated Press All-American honors, as he made 52 tackles and led his team with 17.5 tackles for loss and topped the conference with 11.5 sacks. Big 12 coaches and media inexplicably left Willis off their all-conference teams in 2015, even though he started every game and made 15.5 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks, while forcing four fumbles (tied for ninth nationally). Willis started each game for the Wildcats as a sophomore, as well (25 stops, 6.5 for loss, four sacks). The Kansas City Star All-Metro pick as a high school senior played in nine games (his one tackle was a sack) his first year in Manhattan.
Analysis
Strengths Good eyes vs. zone read; sees mesh point clearly. Quick responder once he diagnoses the action. Excellent change of direction ability to stay in the hunt. Finishes tackles, rarely allowing runners to escape grasp. Pursuit will not stop until the whistle blows. Proficient with hands. Hands are strong and control the action. Well-schooled with excellent stack-and-shed ability. Good strength in base and plays with adequate contact balance. Stays clean setting edge while spying into backfield. Uses blockers' forward lean against them, sends them tumbling forward. Arm over is a pet move that gives him early wins. Track-stance pass rusher who comes out of the blocks with decent burst to the edge. Hard worker. Productive in sacks and forced fumbles over final two seasons at KSU.
Weaknesses Straight-liner mover. Very deliberate as a pass rusher. Shows rush moves early and rarely deviates from original track. One-speed rusher lacking dynamic qualities to turn corner for tight loops. Could get flattened in the rush arc due to hip tightness. Timing of hands need work as he tends to shoot prematurely, opening himself up to counter moves. Rarely makes tackles redirect inside with sharp counters. Tackles often come at angles. Might need to move to outside linebacker on next level.
NFL Comparison Kyle Emanuel
Bottom Line Productive three-year starter who plays with desired motor from whistle to whistle. Willis is a stack-and-shed edge defender with good play strength and quality hand work at the point of attack. He will need more creativity to be an effective NFL pass rusher, but he should be able to earn a roster spot and work his way up the pecking order in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme
DE Jordan Willis/Kansas State/6'4"/255
40 YD DASH: 4.53
BENCH PRESS: 24 REPS
VERT. JUMP: 39IN
Broad Jump: 125 IN
3-Cone: 6.85
20 YD Shuttle: 4.28
Overview
Long-time Kansas State head coach Bill Snyder called Willis "the epitome" of Kansas State football. That's high praise from a Hall of Fame coach who has led the program all but three years since 1989. Willis earned that praise with his play on the field and attitude off of it. He was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year in 2016 and also garnered third-team Associated Press All-American honors, as he made 52 tackles and led his team with 17.5 tackles for loss and topped the conference with 11.5 sacks. Big 12 coaches and media inexplicably left Willis off their all-conference teams in 2015, even though he started every game and made 15.5 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks, while forcing four fumbles (tied for ninth nationally). Willis started each game for the Wildcats as a sophomore, as well (25 stops, 6.5 for loss, four sacks). The Kansas City Star All-Metro pick as a high school senior played in nine games (his one tackle was a sack) his first year in Manhattan.
Analysis
Strengths Good eyes vs. zone read; sees mesh point clearly. Quick responder once he diagnoses the action. Excellent change of direction ability to stay in the hunt. Finishes tackles, rarely allowing runners to escape grasp. Pursuit will not stop until the whistle blows. Proficient with hands. Hands are strong and control the action. Well-schooled with excellent stack-and-shed ability. Good strength in base and plays with adequate contact balance. Stays clean setting edge while spying into backfield. Uses blockers' forward lean against them, sends them tumbling forward. Arm over is a pet move that gives him early wins. Track-stance pass rusher who comes out of the blocks with decent burst to the edge. Hard worker. Productive in sacks and forced fumbles over final two seasons at KSU.
Weaknesses Straight-liner mover. Very deliberate as a pass rusher. Shows rush moves early and rarely deviates from original track. One-speed rusher lacking dynamic qualities to turn corner for tight loops. Could get flattened in the rush arc due to hip tightness. Timing of hands need work as he tends to shoot prematurely, opening himself up to counter moves. Rarely makes tackles redirect inside with sharp counters. Tackles often come at angles. Might need to move to outside linebacker on next level.
NFL Comparison Kyle Emanuel
Bottom Line Productive three-year starter who plays with desired motor from whistle to whistle. Willis is a stack-and-shed edge defender with good play strength and quality hand work at the point of attack. He will need more creativity to be an effective NFL pass rusher, but he should be able to earn a roster spot and work his way up the pecking order in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:08 pm to mindbreaker
Yeah he's good prospect but I hope we address the edge rusher need before the 3Rd round.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:33 pm to Meateye
quote:
Yeah he's good prospect but I hope we address the edge rusher need before the 3Rd round.
I'm more concerned with reaching in the first. Thomas or Barnett is there yeah I'd be fine with them too, but Taco worries me.
I just keep thinking back to recent drafts where the board was clamoring for Jarvis Jones and Bud Dupree. Turned out good for us to pass on both. As we got better players in the ones we did pick instead (Vacarro and Peat)
Although anything past the first round we have usually botched this organization has done pretty well on 1st round picks outside of a few (Sed Ellis, Patrick Robinson, Stephone Anthony) since 2006
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:37 pm to mindbreaker
If Thomas or Barnett aren't there then it wouldn't be the end of the world to wait until the second or third round.
If a really good player like Reuben Foster or Jamal Adams or Malik Hooker fall you don't want to be hamstrung into taking a lesser player like Taco above them.
However, if we get an extra first round pick then it all becomes moot and we can get who we want.
If a really good player like Reuben Foster or Jamal Adams or Malik Hooker fall you don't want to be hamstrung into taking a lesser player like Taco above them.
However, if we get an extra first round pick then it all becomes moot and we can get who we want.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:26 pm to Meateye
What are your thoughts on Lattimore with the 11?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:36 pm to mindbreaker
quote:
I'm more concerned with reaching in the first. Thomas or Barnett is there yeah I'd be fine with them too, but Taco worries me.
Could not agree more!
Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:38 pm to mindbreaker
quote:
What are your thoughts on Lattimore with the 11?
I say no way no how on a corner at 11. This class is way too deep at corner. You need to get your edge rusher in the first. Corner can come later.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:34 pm to Meateye
Meateye!!!!!!!
Where you been!? I knew you would be back for draft time!!
Where you been!? I knew you would be back for draft time!!
Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:35 pm to Meateye
Who did we trade that 5th round pick for?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:46 pm to ellishughtiger
quote:
Who did we trade that 5th round pick for?
To move back into the 4th last year to draft Onyemata.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:51 pm to Meateye
I know he is raw given pre nfl circumstance but glad to see him play this year. Hopefully he will live up to the hype for years to come. 
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:04 pm to ellishughtiger
quote:
I know he is raw given pre nfl circumstance but glad to see him play this year. Hopefully he will live up to the hype for years to come.
Who Onyemata? He looked good in the few chances he got last year. Its a work in progress but he looks promising.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:25 am to Meateye
Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:21 am to Meateye
Wonder if the people we picked up on Thursday changes our draft strategy at all. 
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:18 am to Meateye
I really want Barnett and Obi-wan. Hopefully we can get them at 11 & 32.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:20 am to SaintsTHC
Lattimore and Njoku would be pimp
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:29 am to Chad504boy
quote:
Lattimore and Njoku would be pimp
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:17 am to Meateye
NEED A STICKY ON THIS
We're already seeing thread congestion from peeps posting mock drafts from the far corners of the internet. It's only gonna get worse unless we can get them pointed to this thread.
We're already seeing thread congestion from peeps posting mock drafts from the far corners of the internet. It's only gonna get worse unless we can get them pointed to this thread.
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