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Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:21 pm to oncealurker
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I didn't see we would get Jeff Green in the deal too. I actually like yours a little now. My bad
I was wondering why people were focusing on Biyombo when Jeff Green would obviously be the centerpiece of that deal.
Biyombo would give you a C, Green would give you a scoring SF that can also play some PF, and Bass would provide great depth at the 4.
We obviously downgrade significantly at the 2, but get better at 3 and 5. Tough call, downgraded "top end talent" to get better elsewhere.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:24 pm to Fun Bunch
I still think Biyombo would be a steal in the long run but JGreen would definitely be awesome as a 3.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:24 pm to Fun Bunch
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NO - gets Biyombo (3.2, 4), JGreen (8.7, 9.2), Bass (6.7, 6.9)
Charl - gets EGordon (14.2, 14.8, 15.5), [optional CLee (5.2, 5.4, 5.7)]
Boston gets - BGordon 13.2 exp, Detroit #1 in 2014
Any chance the other teams consider that? Would we?
If anyone says no it's the Pelicans because it'd kill their flexibility, and because Gordon is playing so much better than Tyreke for now. But that seems like a pretty realistic trade.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:24 pm to Fun Bunch
How confident would you be in Biyombos potential? I think this is his third year now and typically bigs make their jump in the third of fourth year. Havent seen much from him yet
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:26 pm to oncealurker
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How confident would you be in Biyombos potential?
Not confident, but he's better than what we have and could be good as a transition dunker and defensive presence next to Davis.
No point in discussing it really as fan trades rarely ever happen, and I thought it was an interesting proposal.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:27 pm to oncealurker
I like him a lot he has had I think 2 or 3 coaches in the past 3 years and if we would possibly fire Monty and get a offensive coach in George Karl who could work with his offensive game and possibly send him to Hakeem in the summers and work on his offensive game as well
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:31 pm to Mettsiah96
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I personally HATE his contract
Serious questions. Can you explain why? Is it the amount vs. perceived talent or is it the structure?
I think he will get better with more talent around him. He also needs to learn how to finish. He gets to the rim and throws up some stupid looking shots.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:34 pm to kyledavis
Because we could have gotten him for a whole lot less
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:35 pm to kyledavis
I've never liked him as a player and made that pretty well known. I was definitely in the minority on that one and backed off once we signed him because he was a Pelican.
I don't think he's that good. He doesn't really have a position, he is not a great shooter, and while he can handle the ball pretty well and slash, he's not that great at much else imo.
I also think we drastically overpaid.
But...I still hope he proves me wrong. Its only been 4 games.
I don't think he's that good. He doesn't really have a position, he is not a great shooter, and while he can handle the ball pretty well and slash, he's not that great at much else imo.
I also think we drastically overpaid.
But...I still hope he proves me wrong. Its only been 4 games.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:38 pm to Mettsiah96
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Because we could have gotten him for a whole lot less
This just isn't true. Sacramento wasn't going to let him walk for nothing, he'd have gotten at least $8 million per year from them meaning we paid at most $3 million more than the minimum Sac would have paid. Overpaying a guy $2-$3 million per year isn't what screws you, especially when Demps has proven capable of getting end of rotation guys pretty cheap.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Exactly right we could of gotten a player like AI for just bit more money
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:40 pm to TigerinATL
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This just isn't true. Sacramento wasn't going to let him walk for nothing, he'd have gotten at least $8 million per year from them meaning we paid at most $3 million more than the minimum Sac would have paid. Overpaying a guy $2-$3 million per year isn't what screws you, especially when Demps has proven capable of getting end of rotation guys pretty cheap.
That is the case. We couldn't have gotten him for less. Which means we shouldn't have gotten him at all.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:40 pm to TigerinATL
I don't think Sacremento wanted him first of all so yeah thats why we could have gotten him for less
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:40 pm to Mettsiah96
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I don't think Sacremento wanted him first of all so yeah thats why we could have gotten him for less
Nah. This is incorrect. They were offering him over 8 per and were seriously considering matching the 11.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:42 pm to Fun Bunch
But why would they have gotten a guy in Ben Mclemore the week before
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:43 pm to Mettsiah96
We still should of went for a true SF in FA
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:47 pm to Mettsiah96
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should of went
:applause:
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:47 pm to Mettsiah96
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I don't think Sacremento wanted him first of all so yeah thats why we could have gotten him for less
Sacramento was definitely begging for someone to do a S&T like we did, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have resigned him if no one makes a deal. At the very least they'd have signed him to his one year tender offer which was around $7.5 IIRC. If you want to say we could have used the money more wisely on someone else I can agree with that, but I don't think we could have gotten Evans any cheaper than we did.
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