What about trading for Rubio and keeping Jrue as 6th man?

You've been on this Rubio train for awhile now.

That doesnt make our team a whole lot better imo.

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why go to all the trouble of your three way deal to get someone who can't shoot? did you know Rubio is shooting at 27% from three line? no. No. NO.

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The game is not all about 3 point shooting. His defense and ability to facilitate is very good.

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If you're Jrue, would you sign a deal to stay with one of the worst franchises in the league in order to come off the bench?

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Of course not.

He will go somewhere and get paid 20+ mill and start.

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If the current rumor is that they have to take Rondo to get Gibson, wouldn't they be looking for a team that would be willing to take Rondo?

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The Bulls HC and the whole FO are on the hot seat. They aren't looking to just dump Rondo, they need to get better as a team. I don't think Rubio fits with Butler and DWade any more than Rondo, but Moore and Frazier would.

But I think the real answer to the question is what Totes said, you're not going to sell Holiday on the 6th man role and I think long term I want Buddy starting and playing 34+ minutes.

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you would rather Rubio than Jrue?

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Did you miss the 2nd part of the thread title?

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and keeping Jrue as 6th man?

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I guess the bottom line of what I'm trying to do is cash in some of our redundant/useless/expiring players for more useful players.

I'm with you.
Jrue just isn't the PG we need. he's a good player, but he's not the PG for our team, and he would probably be better off the ball, or with a team that already has a dominant ball handling SG or SF, like Chicago.

I wouldn't mind Rubio, hell I wouldn't even mind Rondo, but I would want more back than just one of them for Jrue.

I don't think Jrue will get resigned by us in the offseason, or hope he won't if he's asking for $20M.

We could do a
Jrue/Asik/QPon to Chicago,
Rondo/Gibson/Ajinca to T-Wolves
Rubio/Pek/Aldrich/Chi 1st to Pels

Chicago would do it b/c it makes them much better and they get rid of Rondo.
Wolves might not, but it gives them flexibility with money, and they can resign Gibson and can also let go of Rondo if they don't like him, and have Dunn and Jones at the PG position for the future while getting rid of the albatross of Pek.
Pels get a decently priced PG for 2 more years, only one more year of a nothing at center with Pek, but get rid of the two nothings they already have eating $15M/yr, and get an actual center for cheap for the next 2 years, as well as a late teens pick.

I feel like I had an epiphany today on Asik. When the deal was announced MM said the Pels structured it to be stretched after 3 years, which is nonsensical except that's exactly how NFL contracts are structured. Most NFL contracts are basically 3 year deals no matter how long they are officially for. They are structured in a way that usually after 3 years you can cut most guys with a manageable amount of dead money. MM says he's heard they are open to stretching Asik this summer and if they can't find a trade for him I think that's exactly what they'll do.

What's $3.5 million in dead money for 7 years? They call it Loomising.

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What's $3.5 million in dead money for 7 years? They call it Loomising.

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nothing really, but I would think someone would have an interest in him, knowing they could do the same thing.
I think Chicago would have a lot of interest in Jrue if we made him available to them, and could easily tie Asik to a trade with them.

They can have Jrue/Asik for Rondo/Portis and both their 1st round picks, knowing the Sac pick probably won't come through.

I rather your original idea of getting Rubio and Carroll though over the gibberish Ive said.