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So why didn’t Griff trade Zo for Lauri at the deadline?
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:00 pm
He knew Zo wasn’t going to be apart of the team moving forward and apparently the Bulls offered Lauri and picks at the deadline. Once we moved Melli, Lauri would have been a huge upgrade and provided shooting we desperately needed.
I find it hilarious we took on contracts and got scraps for Ball while the Bulls want a first for Lauri now and he couldn’t muster up any contract offers over 14 mill….
I’m sure Lauri would be estatatic to take the exact contract we just gave Hart filling our backup 4 hole yet we keep future flexibility if he does work out if we had him as a rfa…..
I find it hilarious we took on contracts and got scraps for Ball while the Bulls want a first for Lauri now and he couldn’t muster up any contract offers over 14 mill….
I’m sure Lauri would be estatatic to take the exact contract we just gave Hart filling our backup 4 hole yet we keep future flexibility if he does work out if we had him as a rfa…..
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 3:02 pm
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:03 pm to Townedrunkard
Because he was trying to make the playoffs and moving Zo then is basically folding his hand. It didn’t work. It is what it is.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:31 pm to Townedrunkard
I think Reddish was also offered supposedly too from Hawks.
He didn’t want to trade Zo because of playoffs and didn’t want to destroy the team relationship during the season. Or he wanted to wait for off season hoping to grab Lowry/Paul.
Plus Zo wanted to be here, he just didn’t feel appreciated.
He didn’t want to trade Zo because of playoffs and didn’t want to destroy the team relationship during the season. Or he wanted to wait for off season hoping to grab Lowry/Paul.
Plus Zo wanted to be here, he just didn’t feel appreciated.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:35 pm to Townedrunkard
Did they offer picks? I thought they only offered Lauri for Zo straight up and Griff was holding out for picks.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:39 pm to Townedrunkard
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I find it hilarious we took on contracts and got scraps for Ball while the Bulls want a first for Lauri now and he couldn’t muster up any contract offers over 14 mill….
I find it hilarious that you don't understand how restricted free agency works
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I’m sure Lauri would be estatatic to take the exact contract we just gave Hart filling our backup 4 hole yet we keep future flexibility if he does work out if we had him as a rfa…..
there's a reason the Pels didn't take Lauri after months of the Bulls attempting to give him to the Pels and there's a reason why he remains unsigned
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:54 pm to Townedrunkard
I'd rather have Satoransky and a 2nd than feel pressured to overpay Markennan because the Pels "gave up Lonzo" to get him.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:14 pm to Townedrunkard
The Pels didn't want to overpay to keep lonzo due to him being a restricted free agent. They knew then the cost to resign him would exceed his actual value. All the Bulls was offering was someone in Lauri who like lonzo was looking for a contract that exceeded his actual value. The pels would have an equally tough time trying to re-sign him. This would increase the chance that he simply play next year on the Q.O. which would make him untradable if the pels wanted to.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:16 pm to Townedrunkard
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He knew Zo wasn’t going to be apart of the team moving forward and apparently the Bulls offered Lauri and picks at the deadline. Once we moved Melli, Lauri would have been a huge upgrade and provided shooting we desperately needed.
I find it hilarious we took on contracts and got scraps for Ball while the Bulls want a first for Lauri now and he couldn’t muster up any contract offers over 14 mill….
Here's a simple answer. Temple and Sato are better than Lauri.
Sato and Temple are tall role players who will fit well with Zion/BI. They are tall, they play defense, and can knock down 3's. Thus the term for such players, "3 and D."
3 and D players are valuable in todays league. They guard well, play roles, and open the floor with a few threes here and there. 3 and D's are not stars.
Lauri wants to be a star. He is not a 3 and D role player.
The End.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:28 pm to P bean
quote:False
Temple and Sato are better than Lauri.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:33 pm to NOSHAU
markkanen is a legit nba player who just needs a defined role and strong defenders on the floor with him. Temple is well past the point of being a rotation player on a good team (but he might be here) and sato is replacement level at best
Problem is markkanen is not worth a big contract. He’s a poster boy 2 yr MLE level player. He’s shite out of luck this year since all the money has dried up. Next year he will get his mid level deal
Problem is markkanen is not worth a big contract. He’s a poster boy 2 yr MLE level player. He’s shite out of luck this year since all the money has dried up. Next year he will get his mid level deal
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:15 pm to Townedrunkard
I don't think the Pelicans had decided anything on Lonzo by the trade deadline. Maybe they would have moved him if overwhelmed by an offer, but I think they saw some improvements the last two years and wanted more time to evaluate and settle on a price. Apparently that price still wasnt enough.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:32 pm to Townedrunkard
I think Griff decides to lean all the way into intangibles and competitiveness this year. We got rid of literally ever lackadaisical player we had from last year. Lonzo is gone, Bledsoe is gone, Melli, JJ, all of them.
I think Griff has finally built the culture he has been trying to build since he got here. This will finally be the year it feels like the culture and energy of this team and franchise has shifted. Shouldn't have taken three years to do it, but better late than never.
That's why I think he decides to take Sato and Temple over Lauri. Murphy, Herb, Graham and Valanciunas all give 100% every time they are on the court. We saw the way Willie Green likes his team's to play in summer league. This team won't lose due to lack if effort or hustle, not anymore.
That's why they took the pieces they did. Doesn't mean I agree it was the right move, but the more time I sit with it, the more I'm excited to see what this team can do now that every player actually wants to be here and they all put the team before themselves.
I think Griff has finally built the culture he has been trying to build since he got here. This will finally be the year it feels like the culture and energy of this team and franchise has shifted. Shouldn't have taken three years to do it, but better late than never.
That's why I think he decides to take Sato and Temple over Lauri. Murphy, Herb, Graham and Valanciunas all give 100% every time they are on the court. We saw the way Willie Green likes his team's to play in summer league. This team won't lose due to lack if effort or hustle, not anymore.
That's why they took the pieces they did. Doesn't mean I agree it was the right move, but the more time I sit with it, the more I'm excited to see what this team can do now that every player actually wants to be here and they all put the team before themselves.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:43 pm to cgrand
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Problem is markkanen is not worth a big contract. He’s a poster boy 2 yr MLE level player. He’s shite out of luck this year since all the money has dried up. Next year he will get his mid level deal
Lauri wants to be a star/max player.
He isnt nearly that good though. We could still take a flyer on him, but Sato has a ton of value around the league/always has, and he comes cheap.
This Pels teams needs role players and a LEGIT third star.
We got the roles players now.
Lauri is NOT a legit 3rd star.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:01 pm to P bean
I think NAW is our third star and this is the year he proves it.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:21 pm to cgrand
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sato is replacement level at best
False.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:20 pm to P bean
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Here's a simple answer. Temple and Sato are better than Lauri.
No they are not, put the pelicans goggles down.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:22 pm to P bean
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Lauri wants to be a star/max player.
He wanted around 14 million and start. So where you get that he wants a max? Ball is def closer to wanting to be a max/star player than Lauri.
I’m hearing alot of excuses, but this just seems like another Griff screwup. The team would be in a better position today if he made the trade instead of worrying about the here and now like he’s been doing. ESP looks bad considering we didn’t make the playoffs which was the whole reason for not making the trade….
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:32 pm to TigerinATL
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I'd rather have Satoransky and a 2nd than feel pressured to overpay Markennan because the Pels "gave up Lonzo" to get him.
Why would be pressured to overpay him? Are the bulls going to overpay him? He had no market this year. Seems like the Bulls will get him on the one year QO for a pretty good value while our options were an overpaid bad contract Ball, or an expiring Sato and overpaid Temple.
Think I’d rather see how Lauri would have fit this year on the QO or on a Hart like deal…..
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:36 pm to Townedrunkard
If we didn't want to pay Lonzo because of his demeanor and attitude, why would we want to bring in Lauri?
You're just trading one underachiever, for another. We got the lackadaisical players off the team. I can see why Griff didn't want to risk adding a new one.
You're just trading one underachiever, for another. We got the lackadaisical players off the team. I can see why Griff didn't want to risk adding a new one.
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:18 pm to Townedrunkard
Your screen name should be pastmoves.
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