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re: Poll Has 82% Voting They Would Rather Build Around Irving Instead of Davis

Posted on 2/12/13 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by 42
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 6:53 pm to
Coming from some that dodge questions repeatedly.

Again, double standards.

I'd say insulting posters who disagree with you, pounding the same emotional declarations over and over when someone dissents stifles things. A better alternative is to make points solidly, which you also do well. Why you choose to do the other as often as you do is disappointing.

For examples, since that is the next question, you told the one guy he just parrots analysis and has nothing to refute.your cold hard facts... all while inventing histories of various polls.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:03 pm to
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For examples, since that is the next question, you told the one guy he just parrots analysis and has nothing to refute.your cold hard facts...


Still a pretty accurate statement. Maybe he'll buy you a drink for defending his honor.
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all while inventing histories of various polls.


You are the dumbass that tried to compare two polls that are more different than apples and oranges. You know you made that statement to try to bait me. That's the passive aggressive part.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:05 pm to
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Irving is not a top 5 PG
lol

Yes he is

Easily
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:10 pm to
I gotta admit, you do come off as a pretty big douche bag on this board
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:18 pm to
Way to respond classily.

I did not try to compare the polls.

No one tried to bait you, you just reacted to an observation that applies to you and.others. And that is NOT what passive-aggressive behavior is.

At any rate, I responded to.your questions satisfactorily, I take it.

I'll take Davis by the way.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:27 pm to
I don't give a shite about the personal squabble. But even if Irving is a top five PG, I'd choose Davis to "build around" in fricking heartbeat and it has nothing to do with being a homer. Assuming he's not a bust (and there's no evidence to suggest that's the case), a guy at 6'10" with his skill set and upside is an easy choice over a talented PG. Seriously. How many of those guys are around?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:33 pm to
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Coming from some that dodge questions repeatedly.


What have I dodged?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:36 pm to
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I gotta admit, you do come off as a pretty big douche bag on this board



I'll consider adding that to my tombstone.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:37 pm to
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What have I dodged?


I assumed that was aimed at me.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:38 pm to
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Yes he is

Easily


How?
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:41 pm to
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How?
By being better than other point guards?
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:43 pm to
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By being better than other point guards?



What specific aspects of his game are elite?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:49 pm to
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what?

they don't allow for the same efficiencies and hog the ball too much, basically

cp3 will need to become more of a scorer in the playoffs if the clips want to win it all
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:53 pm to
-Very good handle, one of the best in the league
-Elite speed
-can beat guys off the dribble going to the basket and pulling up for jumpers
-About as clutch as they come in the NBA in the 4th

Statistical, For point guards:

-Top scoring PG at over 23 ppg, 6th in FG%
-Top five in 3pt%, top 10 in 3's made
-7th in rbds at 3.7 a game
-Top 10 in steals with 1.7 a game

I know, I just parrot analysts and have no match your all-powerful intellect and all-encompassing Hornets and NBA knowledge, but just a few observations and stats I have from what I've seen from him
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:55 pm to
I realize he isn't a great defender, and doesn't pass particularly well (of course who the frick is he supposed to pass it to that roster) but the good thing about having literally all the physical tools in the world is you can get better at those things
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:58 pm to
Oh, and with 22.92 PER, he's 4th among point guards, 7th among all guards, and 13th in the entire league
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:19 pm to
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Oh, and with 22.92 PER, he's 4th among point guards, 7th among all guards, and 13th in the entire league



And with all of that, if Davis develops as expected he'll be more valuable as the "conerstone" . . as they say.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:32 pm to
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And with all of that, if Davis develops as expected he'll be more valuable as the "conerstone" . . as they say.

true, but he was just defending irving as a top 5 pg
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:35 pm to
I still prefer a pg who can distribute efficiently.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:39 pm to
Anthony Davis has the 7th best PER among all PFs this season and is 30th overall.

Irving clocked in a 23 in PER last season (a shortened one at that)

Both are nice players. The whole "this position is more important than that one" when it comes to championship teams is stupid. Good teams win championships, not elite PGs or C
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