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pels league stats thru 30% of the season
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:32 pm
all stats per NBA.com
counting stats
5th in PPG
6th in RPG
9th in APG
5th in FG%
10th in 3P%
15th in FT%
18th in TOV PG
2nd in steals PG
19th in blocks PG
2nd in +/-
advanced stats
6th on ORTG
3rd in DRTG
2nd in NRTG
11th in AST%
6th in AST/TOV
4th in REB%
16th in TOV%
8th in EFG%
9th in TS%
11th in pace
counting stats
5th in PPG
6th in RPG
9th in APG
5th in FG%
10th in 3P%
15th in FT%
18th in TOV PG
2nd in steals PG
19th in blocks PG
2nd in +/-
advanced stats
6th on ORTG
3rd in DRTG
2nd in NRTG
11th in AST%
6th in AST/TOV
4th in REB%
16th in TOV%
8th in EFG%
9th in TS%
11th in pace
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:34 pm to cgrand
And I said … we said … I said, ‘Are you strong?’ They said, ‘I’m strong if you strong.’ I said, ‘We strong, then.’”
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:35 pm to cgrand
I think our biggest weakness right now is turnovers.
And I also think this could easily be cleaned up.
Zion gives 1-2 away a game with a sloppy handle.
Nance is good for one a game almost always on a really bad pass in transition or a moving pick.
Jonas seems to get at least one moving screen a game too.
And I also think this could easily be cleaned up.
Zion gives 1-2 away a game with a sloppy handle.
Nance is good for one a game almost always on a really bad pass in transition or a moving pick.
Jonas seems to get at least one moving screen a game too.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:38 pm to ghost2most
It doesn’t help that refs love calling offensive fouls on us either.
As long as we can finish at the rim then I think our turnovers and 3pt % will go back up. Last game was just a little weird.
As long as we can finish at the rim then I think our turnovers and 3pt % will go back up. Last game was just a little weird.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:38 pm to ghost2most
quote:Yea. Without looking, it feels like it's been more of an issue more recently. I think we started the season really well.
I think our biggest weakness right now is turnovers.
1 good thing is we are forcing turnovers a lot too, at least offsets it a bit.
quote:His handle is so bad. Doesn't really matter, but it's just bad.
Zion gives 1-2 away a game with a sloppy handle.
quote:Nance seems to get a shite ton as well.
Jonas seems to get at least one moving screen a game too.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:42 pm to shel311
yes its the live ball turnovers that kill the pels.
occasionally you'll hit a patch where the opponent starts raining 3's (last nite, BOS) but theres nothing you can do about that and the pels opponents are are actually well below league average in 3P% against them
it's the turnovers
occasionally you'll hit a patch where the opponent starts raining 3's (last nite, BOS) but theres nothing you can do about that and the pels opponents are are actually well below league average in 3P% against them
it's the turnovers
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:43 pm to shel311
Those numbers show that we are a damn good team. Not a fluke team or a lucky team, but a damn good team.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:43 pm to shel311
quote:
quote: Zion gives 1-2 away a game with a sloppy handle. His handle is so bad. Doesn't really matter, but it's just bad.
It’s kind of funny how he fumbles the ball around some but his hands are so fast and strong that he usually corrals it back before anyone steals it. It almost is a helpful bc defenders lose focus bc the ball is loose just to have him scoop it back up and blow past them.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:48 pm to cgrand
quote:Yea, Zach Lowe mentioned it about a week ago on how we're getting a bit lucky there so far getting a benefit from teams shooting a bad % on wide open 3s.
are actually well below league average in 3P% against them
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:55 pm to shel311
quote:
And I said … we said … I said, ‘Are you strong?’ They said, ‘I’m strong if you strong.’ I said, ‘We strong, then.’”
Skrong*
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:20 pm to shel311
quote:
Yea, Zach Lowe mentioned it about a week ago on how we're getting a bit lucky there so far getting a benefit from teams shooting a bad % on wide open 3s.
Boston and Memphis lol at this
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:41 pm to shel311
lol Zion's handles for a big are absolutely elite. That's part of what makes him so unstoppable. When you have the ball as much as he does and takes on as much of the offensive load as he does, AND that load comes almost entirely in the paint with the entire defense packing it in, you're bound to have a few turnovers. But, to say his handle is bad is just false.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:48 pm to ghost2most
Yea... We've been sloppy as of late but I pay more attention to Assists/Turnover ratio than just turnovers by itself. If we are moving the ball effectively and it's leading to scoring far more often than we are turning it over, I'm not too concerned about it.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:57 pm to shel311
quote:
His handle is so bad. Doesn't really matter, but it's just bad.
You know, I thought that it's been getting better as the season has progressed?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:33 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:I can see that, though last night would have been a bit of a relapse.
You know, I thought that it's been getting better as the season has progressed?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:24 pm to shel311
quote:
Nance seems to get a shite ton as well.
Refs do their homework too so if they know this they look for it, leading to it being called more. They need to work in making it happen less.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:05 pm to TackySweater
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Zion Williamson ranks 6th amongst 68 players to defend 200 or more picks as the screener this season. Allowing 0.85 points per possession. He has also held opponents to 37.4% FG as the contesting defender. Two-way Zion.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:13 pm to shel311
quote:
His handle is so bad. Doesn't really matter, but it's just bad.
It’s really not? It’s not near where it needs to be for him to get where he needs to be as a player. But you act like he’s fricking Kendrick Perkins out there dribbling
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:17 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
quote:
lol Zion's handles for a big are absolutely elite.
I wouldn’t go that far. They’re not bad but he can certainly improve. I honestly think it’s one of the biggest things he needs to work on in the offseason. If he can improve his handle over the next two seasons, through offseason work and part of it will come too from just handling it more in high pressure situations, then he will be even better
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:27 pm to WicKed WayZ
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