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Offensive Rebounding
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:47 pm
I've mentioned it a few times before that we never, ever, go after offensive rebounds. When a shot goes up, you will rarely ever see anyone get in there to follow it up. No one will even go close to the lane more often than not, other than Buddy running through a few times b/c he was bored not moving around enough in the stagnant offense for him.
Found this:
I can without a doubt see the 3 guys get back every time a shot goes up, more often than not 4. I guess it's not terrible considering the defense has been much better. I just don't like that philosophy. reeks of laziness to me.
You can still crash the board from time to time, especially depending on who you are guarding. Whoever the 4 is on the court, should crash almost every time. The opposing 4 is likely in the paint anyway, so how hard can it be to get back. To tell everyone to get back every time says to me that they are idiots that aren't capable of making the smart decision when to crash and when not to, so just tell them not to all the time to be safe.
Found this:
quote:
The Pelicans currently have the worst offensive rebounding percentage in NBA in history (18.6%), per Basketball-Reference, but coach Alvin Gentry said he isn't concerned considering the tradeoff they get with a transition defense that ranks in the top 10 this season. "Our philosophy is on the rise of the shot you have to get back," he said. "Three guys getting back every time on the rise of the shot."
I can without a doubt see the 3 guys get back every time a shot goes up, more often than not 4. I guess it's not terrible considering the defense has been much better. I just don't like that philosophy. reeks of laziness to me.
You can still crash the board from time to time, especially depending on who you are guarding. Whoever the 4 is on the court, should crash almost every time. The opposing 4 is likely in the paint anyway, so how hard can it be to get back. To tell everyone to get back every time says to me that they are idiots that aren't capable of making the smart decision when to crash and when not to, so just tell them not to all the time to be safe.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
I tend to agree that transition defense is more important than offensive rebounding, especially with many teams running an up tempo pace. But damn, worst in NBA history is pretty sad. We miss a lot of shots too. Jahlil Okafer would help the rebounding problem. Gentry's system isn't exactly helpin.
Are the offensive rebounding numbers lower compared to past years across the league or are we really that bad? I think the reason it's so low is Anthony Davis is the only true threat to get boards but that's hard for him to do when he takes all the shots.
Are the offensive rebounding numbers lower compared to past years across the league or are we really that bad? I think the reason it's so low is Anthony Davis is the only true threat to get boards but that's hard for him to do when he takes all the shots.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:14 am to Corporal Beavis
I wonder how the warriors do on offensive rebounding?
It takes more energy to block out and then hustle back than just drifting back when the ball goes up.
I wonder how the great Celtics dealt with this issue when they faced Magic, Kareem and Wilt.
It takes more energy to block out and then hustle back than just drifting back when the ball goes up.
I wonder how the great Celtics dealt with this issue when they faced Magic, Kareem and Wilt.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:24 pm to CelticDog
LINK
According to this, Dallas actually surpassed us for the worst at 18.5%
Golden State is tied with Utah and the Clippers in the high teens at 22.2%
The leader is Denver at 28.7%
The top 10 is composed of some really bad teams that miss a lot of shots -- CHI, NYK, MIN, PHO, LAL
According to this, Dallas actually surpassed us for the worst at 18.5%
Golden State is tied with Utah and the Clippers in the high teens at 22.2%
The leader is Denver at 28.7%
The top 10 is composed of some really bad teams that miss a lot of shots -- CHI, NYK, MIN, PHO, LAL
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:43 pm to kadillak
I don't think this stat means much, and i didn't take much from it.
I just found it interesting that i personally have noticed the team rarely ever crashing the boards, and then i saw this stat come out yesterday and quote from Gentry saying they pretty much tell them to head the other way when a shot goes up, which is exactly what i've seen from them all year.
Looking at that website, we are still in the bottom third of the league in opponent fast break points, so it's not really doing that much good, and when you know that we are one of the better teams in the league at not turning the ball over, you wonder how the hell are we so bad at transition defense if we aren't turning it over and we are getting back immediately when a shot goes up.
I just found it interesting that i personally have noticed the team rarely ever crashing the boards, and then i saw this stat come out yesterday and quote from Gentry saying they pretty much tell them to head the other way when a shot goes up, which is exactly what i've seen from them all year.
Looking at that website, we are still in the bottom third of the league in opponent fast break points, so it's not really doing that much good, and when you know that we are one of the better teams in the league at not turning the ball over, you wonder how the hell are we so bad at transition defense if we aren't turning it over and we are getting back immediately when a shot goes up.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to TeddyPadillac
Yeah that doesn't really add up
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