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No top 20 player - no chance to win a title
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:22 pm
Has an NBA team ever won a title without having one of the best 20 players in the league? I can't think of one.
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:33 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:
Try 10 top
I thought that as well. I can't recall a winner without a top 10 player on it.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:36 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:2004 Pistons
Try 10 top
And probably 2014 Spurs
So basically, if you want to win a title without a top 10 player, all you have to do is either have an all time elite defense, or 4 future HOFers...no big deal.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:43 pm to MetryMauler
Pretty sad that we’re on pace to have one of our best seasons ever and all you see is the same negative posters complaining that we’re not good enough.
For all the negative posters, when you hook up with a lady friend (or guy, it doesn’t matter) do you complain that she wasn’t as pretty as the hottest girl you’ve ever seen? That’s what some of you sound like. Try to enjoy the ride a little bit, it could be much worse.
For all the negative posters, when you hook up with a lady friend (or guy, it doesn’t matter) do you complain that she wasn’t as pretty as the hottest girl you’ve ever seen? That’s what some of you sound like. Try to enjoy the ride a little bit, it could be much worse.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:46 pm to shel311
quote:
2004 Pistons
And probably 2014 Spurs
So basically, if you want to win a title without a top 10 player, all you have to do is either have an all time elite defense, or 4 future HOFers...no big deal.
Ben Wallace was 7th in MVP voting, but your point is valid. He really wasn't a top 10 player. Tim Duncan was probably just outside the top 10 in that late stage of his career.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:48 pm to MetryMauler
quote:Agreed
Ben Wallace was 7th in MVP voting, but your point is valid. He really wasn't a top 10 player.
quote:Yea. It was a weird crossover year where Duncan wasn't good enough to be considered legit top 10 as he was old but Kawhi also wasn't top 10 as he was younger. Basically, the Spurs weren't supposed to win that year, but they did it any way. But yea, they had 4 future Hall of Famers, so if any team was going to do it without a top 10 player, that team would be on the shortlist.
Tim Duncan was probably just outside the top 10 in that late stage of his career.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:51 pm to shel311
I sometimes wonder what Zion would be if he landed somewhere like Miami.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:54 pm to saintslsupels
quote:exactly , we are 7-1 since February 2nd which includes a 2-1 west coast trip and a win against the number 1 team in the west ( Clippers)
Pretty sad that we’re on pace to have one of our best seasons ever and all you see is the same negative posters complaining that we’re not good enough.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:07 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:They sure as shite wouldn't be in limbo right now wondering how good he can be.
sometimes wonder what Zion would be if he landed somewhere like Miami
They take no bullshite, and I truly believe a dude like Haslem isn't putting up with the stuff the team has the past few seasons.
Basically, he'd be an in shape top 10 player right now or they would have broke him, no in betweens.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:11 pm to shel311
quote:
Yea. It was a weird crossover year where Duncan wasn't good enough to be considered legit top 10 as he was old but Kawhi also wasn't top 10 as he was younger
That was the year we were introduced to Kawhi.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:13 pm to MetryMauler
Zion is very obviously putting in the work since IST. Y’all expect it to happen overnight? Dudes trending up and looking closer to himself than any point in this season.
I don’t get the pessimism. Give the dude time to evolve this shite. He’s finally getting the ball. He’s finally rounding into physical shape. What’s the problem again?
I don’t get the pessimism. Give the dude time to evolve this shite. He’s finally getting the ball. He’s finally rounding into physical shape. What’s the problem again?
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:14 pm to Split2874
Sorry if having one of the best seasons of a shite franchise doesn't really thrill me. It's win it all or bust or at least contend. We're not really doing either.
The biggest difference between the Pistons and Spurs teams and us is toughness and intelligence.
Those were smart, gritty teams.
We're soft and fricking stupid.
The biggest difference between the Pistons and Spurs teams and us is toughness and intelligence.
Those were smart, gritty teams.
We're soft and fricking stupid.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:17 pm to ghost2most
Can you imagine if Butler and Haslem were on this team. BI and Zion would have gotten their asses kicked by now.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:17 pm to ghost2most
I hate to break the news to yall but almost no one wins a title when their star is 23.
You win titles when your best player is in his prime.
You win titles when your best player is in his prime.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:24 pm to six4lsu
MJ 28
LBJ 27
Shaq 27
Some of you troll folk will say Kobe, Duncan, and Magic. I ll save you the trouble, they were not the best players on those teams.
LBJ 27
Shaq 27
Some of you troll folk will say Kobe, Duncan, and Magic. I ll save you the trouble, they were not the best players on those teams.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:31 pm to six4lsu
Larry Bird was 25. And Magic was very close to being the best player on the Lakers .
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:33 pm to six4lsu
Shaq
The Admiral
Kareem
So precedence says you need a GREAT big man if you dont have the other stuff.
The Admiral
Kareem
So precedence says you need a GREAT big man if you dont have the other stuff.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:36 pm to six4lsu
Giannis 26
Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:42 pm to ghost2most
Zion is 23. Based on all the player that were named he has 2-4 more years to get to that level.
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