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re: NBA Draft Combine thread
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:07 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:07 pm to Fun Bunch
Just for reference
Zach Edey
wingspan: 7-10.75
standing reach: 9-7
Walker Kessler
wingspan: 7-4.25
standing reach: 9-5
I’ve watched almost every Purdue game over the last few years and Edey making shots in an empty gym setting shouldn’t surprise anyone that watched him play. His stroke has always looked pretty good.
I wouldn’t normally do this, but since he’s being mocked to us in a few drafts, here are my thoughts on Edey as someone who’s watched every game he’s played (if anyone cares):
- I’ve always thought he would be able to shoot a little from the top of the key. I think at worst he can get to 34-36% on 2.5 3pa per 36, which is basically what Val did from deep.
-He’s a great screen setter, which I think we’ve lacked a little bit since we traded Adams.
-This year’s Purdue team was not that good. He covered up a lot of weaknesses and allowed them to get away with playing guys who were deficient on at least one end of the floor.
-The question was/is can he move his feet laterally to hold up on defense. I’ve never thought so, but I will say his combine numbers today are encouraging.
-He’s always been more of a shot alterer rather than a shot blocker. It’s hard to say how much of that is because of his limitations versus how Painter wanted him to play without fouling. His foul numbers went down nearly every year and he does a really good job of not fouling.
-The kid is an extremely hard worker and tougher than he gets credit for. The jump he made from his freshman year to this last year is pretty incredible. He was extremely lost on the court when he first got to Purdue and turned into the back-to-back POY.
- With all that said, I’d prefer a guy like Holmes, who could allow us to play multiple defensive coverages and stretch the floor. However, I would consider Edey “bust-proof” in that I think he’ll be a serviceable big that can give you 15-20 minutes a night and maybe eventually turns into a starting center. If he doesn’t work out, it just was never meant to be and won’t be because he didn’t do everything in his power to make it.
Zach Edey
wingspan: 7-10.75
standing reach: 9-7
Walker Kessler
wingspan: 7-4.25
standing reach: 9-5
I’ve watched almost every Purdue game over the last few years and Edey making shots in an empty gym setting shouldn’t surprise anyone that watched him play. His stroke has always looked pretty good.
I wouldn’t normally do this, but since he’s being mocked to us in a few drafts, here are my thoughts on Edey as someone who’s watched every game he’s played (if anyone cares):
- I’ve always thought he would be able to shoot a little from the top of the key. I think at worst he can get to 34-36% on 2.5 3pa per 36, which is basically what Val did from deep.
-He’s a great screen setter, which I think we’ve lacked a little bit since we traded Adams.
-This year’s Purdue team was not that good. He covered up a lot of weaknesses and allowed them to get away with playing guys who were deficient on at least one end of the floor.
-The question was/is can he move his feet laterally to hold up on defense. I’ve never thought so, but I will say his combine numbers today are encouraging.
-He’s always been more of a shot alterer rather than a shot blocker. It’s hard to say how much of that is because of his limitations versus how Painter wanted him to play without fouling. His foul numbers went down nearly every year and he does a really good job of not fouling.
-The kid is an extremely hard worker and tougher than he gets credit for. The jump he made from his freshman year to this last year is pretty incredible. He was extremely lost on the court when he first got to Purdue and turned into the back-to-back POY.
- With all that said, I’d prefer a guy like Holmes, who could allow us to play multiple defensive coverages and stretch the floor. However, I would consider Edey “bust-proof” in that I think he’ll be a serviceable big that can give you 15-20 minutes a night and maybe eventually turns into a starting center. If he doesn’t work out, it just was never meant to be and won’t be because he didn’t do everything in his power to make it.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 2:09 pm
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:23 pm to Baron
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:26 pm to Fun Bunch
I feel like there's maybe 5 or 6 guys missing from this draft
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:29 pm to CP3forMVP
Its just not a great draft at all. A top 5 pick would be like a 10-15 at best in some other drafts. At least that is what the scuttlebutt is
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:47 pm to Balsamic_duck
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ETA His form looks good in that video.
With the ball starting behind his right ear? Nah.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:22 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:Yes but he's a Kentucky guard. When will people learn their lesson. Always take the Kentucky guard.
Rob Dillingham had some pretty terrible measurements.
6'1 barefoot 6'3 wingspan and 164 lbs. That's Kira Lewis type measurements
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:09 pm to PP7 for heisman
I was hoping Devin Carter would drop to 21 but absolutely crushed the combine. He’s a no doubt lottery guy now
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:39 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:I’ll take the other one
Yes but he's a Kentucky guard. When will people learn their lesson. Always take the Kentucky guard.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:19 am to Balsamic_duck
I don’t think Kira Lewis is bad at nba basketball bc he is 6ft 1, 175 pounds, w an average wingspan. He’s bad at nba basketball bc he never developed a secondary skill to go along with his speed or even learned how to change his speeds. A guy like Tyrese Maxey didn’t have the greatest frame coming out either. He is slightly sturdier, but the main difference between Kira and Tyrese isn’t build, it’s that one knows how to play nba basketball and the other one largely does not.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:21 am to 3PieceSpicy
6’3” 200lbs is drastically different than 6’1” 165lbs.
It plays a huge roll.
Doesn’t mean guys that small can’t be good, but the list of guys with that size that are any good is extremely small.
His ceiling, if he learned to shoot, was Darren Collison, and he’s no where near that.
It plays a huge roll.
Doesn’t mean guys that small can’t be good, but the list of guys with that size that are any good is extremely small.
His ceiling, if he learned to shoot, was Darren Collison, and he’s no where near that.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:25 am to Baron
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With all that said, I’d prefer a guy like Holmes, who could allow us to play multiple defensive coverages and stretch the floor. However, I would consider Edey “bust-proof” in that I think he’ll be a serviceable big that can give you 15-20 minutes a night and maybe eventually turns into a starting center. If he doesn’t work out, it just was never meant to be and won’t be because he didn’t do everything in his power to make it.
100% agree.
What impressed me about Edey is how in shape he was. He ran the floor hard the entire game. He was in better shape than almost every opposing center he played, and he played like it.
I’ll take guys that give that effort all day every day.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:36 am to Macintosh504
quote:
Yes but he's a Kentucky guard. When will people learn their lesson. Always take the Kentucky guard.
Rob’s size and defensive effort worries me. Some days I see Quickly and others I see TyTy.
If the Cal effect happens in this draft, I think it might be Justin Edwards. He was ranked 3 overall out of high school and his shot came around near the end of the year. He had flashes where he looked like the best player on the team and others where he was completely lost. I could see him thriving in a more focused role in the league and eventually blossoming into a really good player.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:42 am to Baron
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If the Cal effect happens in this draft, I think it might be Justin Edwards. He was ranked 3 overall out of high school and his shot came around near the end of the year. He had flashes where he looked like the best player on the team and others where he was completely lost. I could see him thriving in a more focused role in the league and eventually blossoming into a really good player.
100% agree. I think Justin Edwards is a huge sleeper. Like you said great high school recruit, but struggled early at Kentucky then his game really came on in the latter half of the season
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:46 am to Balsamic_duck
Also really high on Alex Karaban from UCONN. Measured 6'6.5" without shoes and a 6'11 wingspan. Nearly a 50/40/90 guy last year and I think is a really underrated defender. Wouldn't be upset at all if we took him 21
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:52 am to Fun Bunch
Am I really about to allow myself to get suckered into Edey? 
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:00 am to 50_Tiger
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Am I really about to allow myself to get suckered into Edey?
It happened to me. The offense is NBA ready right now. He dropped 37 on 60% shooting in the title game against Clingan and UCONN. I don't think the defense is bad. Turns out it's really hard to score on a 7'5 guy with a 7'11 wingspan.
I'll put it this way, we had a top 6 defense two years in a row starting JV. Even against the Thunder, defense wasnt the issue.
I think Edey's floor on defense is higher than what JV is right now on defense. If he does get blown by, he had the crazy length to recover and affect the shot.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:00 am to 50_Tiger
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Am I really about to allow myself to get suckered into Edey?
You might not have the opportunity to. Some scouts have been saying Edey did so well yesterday that if he keeps it up in the scrimmages he might go late lottery.
Also sounds like Adem Bona, Messi, Carter, and Bub Carrington all had really strong combine showings. All of those guys (minus Bona) were players that I would hope would be on the board for our pick. Now it sounds like Edey, Messi, Carrington, and Carter all worked their way into the top 20.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:04 am to Baron
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Also sounds like Adem Bona, Messi, Carter, and Bub Carrington all had really strong combine showings. All of those guys (minus Bona) were players that I would hope would be on the board for our pick. Now it sounds like Edey, Messi, Carrington, and Carter all worked their way into the top 20.
I like Bub a lot. He would've been a great pick at 21. The numbers dont jump out but when you realize he was an 18 year old freshman carrying that Pitt team and taking high difficulty, NBA level shots, it looks really impressive. I like him more than a guy like Keyonte George from last year that a lot of people liked for the pels
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