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re: I think yall are too hard on Willie Green
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Is the coaching of Mike Brown blowing you away or something? You think he is doing a better job than Willie?
I believe we have more talent than the kings and they are barely below us in the standings. Sabonis is basically a 4 playing 5. Yes hes doing a better job than Willie based on his personnel.
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:48 pm to Pels_Yaz
I’m just saying he was an up and coming coach.
X’s and O’s are a little overrated in today’s NBA anyway. Guys want to play for coaches they like and everyone is awesome so they can score at will.
Not saying they don’t matter but culture and chemistry matter more
X’s and O’s are a little overrated in today’s NBA anyway. Guys want to play for coaches they like and everyone is awesome so they can score at will.
Not saying they don’t matter but culture and chemistry matter more
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:48 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Is Sabonis not a 5? What does the Kings reference even mean
Sabonis really is a 4. Its why we basically kill the Kings. They don’t have real size. Yet despite all that, they’re barely below us in the standings.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:49 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Chet is an underweight rookie who is really a 4 playing center
It is kind of wild that you're comparing the difficulty of figuring out what to do with the #1 overall draft pick who will finish 2nd the the ROY voting to Larry Nance
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:51 pm to Tiger1242
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X’s and O’s are a little overrated in today’s NBA anyway. Guys want to play for coaches they like and everyone is awesome so they can score at will.
Lol they are NOT overrated. Whats overrated is culture snd communication.
Guys want to play for coaches they like and everyone can score at will?? Bro what are you talking about?? This is the NBA not an AAU basketball team. We need solid X and O coach against these top teams if you want to go anywhere. Culture and communication wont do shite.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:53 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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It is kind of wild that you're comparing the difficulty of figuring out what to do with the #1 overall draft pick who will finish 2nd the the ROY voting to Larry Nance
Chet has been great as a rookie but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have issues playing center. You’re acting like thats not possible. They are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. Why do you think that is???
I never mentioned Nance you moron- learn reading comprehension.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:56 pm to Broski
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You need to listen to the basketball illuminati podcast episode centered around Borrego's mysterious Charlotte hiring. It was from a year or two ago. One of the first episodes from the show and it was really good.
I’ll have to check that out. Im not saying Borrego is the answer but I didn’t think he was bad especially with the roster he had in charlotte.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:59 pm to BigPerm30
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If Griff was set on Willie, he’d already be extended.
This is a big point to keep in mind. The fact he hasn’t been extended yet just means we (the fans) aren’t the only ones that see issues with Willie.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:04 pm to Tiger1242
quote:Problem is, he's in charge of the rotations, and has massively failed at that despite very obvious eye test and data to show him the way.
He gets blasted for bad rotations, but he’s not in charge of the roster
quote:One is a clearcut better choice, and also, the decision doesn't have to be just between the 2 of them.
it’s not his fault we don’t have rim protection and he’s often forced to choose between Larry and Jonas which can be lose lose.
quote:The personnel is fine. The problem is he has no vision to adapt his process to our roster, and he's trying force his process on to a team that doesn't have the roster to successfully install his process. He's not adaptive, that's a very bad sign for a coach.
He doesn’t always make perfect choices, but he’s also hamstrung by our personnel
quote:We've gotten better in each of the 3 seasons under WIllie.
Overall the team this year is better than it should be, what else can he do?
Ask yourself, is that because of Willie or is that because of Zion going from 0 to 29 to 70 games played?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:06 pm to Tiger1242
quote:That is clear as day.
Would you say we are not maximizing are talent?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:09 pm to shel311
If you're fine with being the pre-Kerr GSWs, then Willie is perfectly fine. Good team that's competitive but has no shot of reaching their full potential. It depends on what this organization is content with a the end of the day.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:09 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Is Sabonis not a 5? What does the Kings reference even mean
Lol yes I was just about to say this. Sabonis set a record for consecutive double doubles since the nba-aba merger 50 years ago and Chet would be rookie of the year in most other seasons.
The biggest weakness on our team is we need better centers, especially someone who can shoot. Look at the top nba teams:
Boston - Porzingis and Hortford
Minny - Naz and KAT
Denver - Jokic
Bucks - Portis and Lopez
If you have someone like Zion, it’s imperative to find a center who can shoot. Not sure if it took Griff this long to realize it, or if he’s tried and not been able to work out a trade, but I’m worried we’re stuck as a good not great team until we find the right center.
What’s annoying is both Val and Nance can hit threes but it’s so low volume it doesn’t matter.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:11 pm to saintslsupels
quote:Nah, Willie's usage of the 5 position is the bigger issue. That position is not that big of a weakness for us, but it IS a weakness based on the who Willie plays at the 5.
The biggest weakness on our team is we need better centers
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:13 pm to saintslsupels
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Lol yes I was just about to say this. Sabonis set a record for consecutive double doubles since the nba-aba merger 50 years ago and Chet would be rookie of the year in most other seasons.
Sabonis is a 4. He has put up monster stats but the kings interior defense is absolute dog shite. Chet has been a great rookie but the thunder have had major interior defense and rebounding issues. Both are great players but that doesn’t mean they’re the perfect centers.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:48 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Overall I think he’s doing a good job
I think he’s doing the absolute bare minimum to keep his head above water and the average fan on side.
To me we simply aren’t doing good enough. We aren’t playing as well as we should be and we certainly aren’t going beyond expectations. Imagine that! Playing like OKC and leading the charge when no one expected it… that would be nice.
We are often careless, try to out talent people rather than play a solid fundamental game with good quick ball movement, we melt leads away, crumble under pressure, weird rotations.
Demand more! We should be fricking elite by now.
I’m not unhappy / dissatisfied… just a bit disappointed.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:53 pm to England_Pelican
Some of this should be on the FO for not upgrading/adding a big man at the deadline. Dallas got Gafford for a late first and he would have been a great replacement for Nance's minutes right now.
But maybe Griffin had no way of knowing Willie was going to fall in love with Nance late in the season
But maybe Griffin had no way of knowing Willie was going to fall in love with Nance late in the season
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:57 pm to Pels_Yaz
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I never mentioned Nance you moron- learn reading comprehension.
You were making a point in response to this...
[img]magine you're an NBA coach trying to compete in the playoffs...& your basic choice at the "5" is...Val or Nance, Jr.[/img]
But ok.
Maybe slow down your posting a bit so you can keep up with what subject you're even talking about.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:16 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Maybe slow down your posting a bit so you can keep up with what subject you're even talking about.
I was responding to his main point in his post not a sentence you picked out of his post. His point was Willie doesnt have the right personnel and I responded basically by showing that not all teams have the exact right personnel. This in no way meant I was making a direct comparison between Nance and Chet.
Maybe slow down your reading so maybe you can respond properly to what I’m posting about. Damn even when you’re wrong- Its my fault because I posted too fast for you lol. You’re hilarious.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:01 pm to Tiger1242
Ita his fault for sitting JV when he's punching a shoulder in chet holograms chest and dominating
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:06 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Is Sabonis not a 5? What does the Kings reference even mean
Yeah, that made no sense. Not only do the Kings have a center, they have one of the best centers in the NBA.
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