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Did Griff screw up by not trading for Rui ?

Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:50 pm
He went for about the same compensation as trading Graham off. Seems like trading him straight up for Jax would have helped the team more this year. We’d still be stuck with Graham but it shouldn’t be that hard to move him at the ‘24 deadline
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Did Griff screw up by not trading for Rui ?

No, he's not very good, a below average basketball player.

He shot sub-30% from 3 with the Lakers. I wouldn't make any sweeping declarations on him over 1 good performance that didn't jive with the larger sample size of the season.

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Seems like trading him straight up for Jax would have helped the team more this year.
Josh Richardson is better than Rui.

But ultimately, both options would have been half year rentals, and neither would have moved the needle for us, so it seems moot.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:14 pm to
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No, he's not very good, a below average basketball player.


This.

Guys play better in certain fits/environments... Rui was going down a bad path. He was used early when he got to LA, fell out of the rotation...and now is pretty much used as their backup big (first forward) off the bench. Lightning in a bottle yesterday for sure, but nothing worth building a franchise around

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Did Griff screw up by not trading for Rui ?

No, he's not very good, a below average basketball player.

He shot sub-30% from 3 with the Lakers. I wouldn't make any sweeping declarations on him over 1 good performance that didn't jive with the larger sample size of the season.



Remember that time Solomon Hill had a good performance in the playoffs and Dell Demps had to have him? Good times.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:03 pm to
Griff's biggest frick up was trading the Lakers #4 pick for Hayes, NAW and Didi in 2019
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:50 pm to
No, yesterday was maybe Rui’s 3rd good performance on the Lakers

Theoretically he could get the same quality looks playing off of Zion, but A) he would not have gotten minutes with Zion and B) I’ll just chill and not make a Zion availability joke today.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Pelican707
Member since Apr 2021
61 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:58 pm to
Bro he had one good game in 3 years lmao calm down
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
1156 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:33 pm to
Despite what people are saying in this thread, yes, basically every team in the league fricked up not trying to acquire a young athletic 6’8 2 way forward for free. The Lakers got him for Kendrick Nunn and some 2nds, that’s a joke

Could be wrong here but think it’s fair to say we have up more for Josh Richardson than the Lakers did Rui. Rui could have made a huge difference considering we had no forward depth the whole season with Zion and Nance sustaining injuries
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Despite what people are saying in this thread, yes, basically every team in the league fricked up not trying to acquire a young athletic 6’8 2 way forward for free.
The Pels give up a 2nd for a half year rental of Rui and we're at home right now just like if we didn't get Rui. We've now given up a 2nd round pick for...what reason that means we fricked up?
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Rui could have made a huge difference
Rui wouldn't make a "huge difference" because he is not a good basketball player. What we had at forward(basically Trey and some Herb Jones as well as Nance) was much better than Rui.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 5:18 pm to
as I watched Rui hit 3s I noted he did not do that when he and Clarke lost in the ncaa finals.
he's added it.
edit: I see Rui was at 30% for the season.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
1156 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:06 pm to
Rui would have been better than Nance second half of the season, fact. He would have made a big difference because he is a great role player at a position we have no depth in
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
851 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:20 pm to
You have to consider how salaries match. Washington was over the cap and not interested in a player with a guaranteed contract next season.
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Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:30 pm to
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Rui would have been better than Nance second half of the season, fact. He would have made a big difference because he is a great role player at a position we have no depth in


Rui and Nance don’t play the same position, so this is a weird comparison…unless you’re advocating for 15-20 min of Rui at center, which is a terrible idea
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8815 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:15 am to
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You have to consider how salaries match. Washington was over the cap and not interested in a player with a guaranteed contract next season. .


Jax’s contract is guaranteed next year? That’s news to me.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 12:16 am
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Member since Apr 2012
10392 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:28 am to
I think you judge Griff on what he does in the offseason with Graham off the books and Richardson expired contract.

I don't think anything short of the Beasley/Vanderbilt deal would have salvaged a post season run. We limped into the play in and ended up with injuries to BI and JV. The season was shot.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27225 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:28 am to
No, but he did mess up by not making any moves.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27225 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:29 am to
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Griff's biggest frick up was trading the Lakers #4 pick for Hayes, NAW and Didi in 2019


This a d darius garland are unforgiveable.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27225 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:31 am to
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think you judge Griff on what he does in the offseason with Graham off the books and Richardson expired contract.


I mean you can judge griff off these past mistakes like darius garland. He has also done some nice things.

I do agree with you that this offseason is his make it or break it year.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:59 am to
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Rui would have been better than Nance second half of the season, fact.
Not remotely a fact.

Healthy Rui is about on the level of injured Nance.

And again, like I said before, Herb and Trey played the bulk of the PF minutes, so you're arguing Rui should have taken minutes from those 2, which I don't think anyone should be for.
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ecause he is a great role player
He's not a good basketball player, where is the world you live in where Rui is a "great" role player?

He's a bad basketball player. That's why Washington gave him away. That's why he went to the Lakers and was still a bad basketball player. Bad basketball players have random good games sometimes.

NAW had 37 points in 1 game, does that mean we should have kept him?
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 8:01 am
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5592 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:19 am to
Well he could have had Rui in stead if Jax or Naw in the draft he chose poorly.
Griff is not good he has been Lucky
Oh he got Lebron he was picking 1 who else was he going to take same w/ Kyrie also the same w/ zion.
I highly doubt he was look I found this little scrappy ball player Jose Alvarado or he was all in on Trey. Or Herb
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