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Anybody wanna guess who's been leading the team in blocks AND steals the past 9 games?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:17 pm
It's the player whose having his best season ever.
Ingram has 12 steals and 12 blocks in the last 9 games
he only had 15 steals and four blocks in the first 23 games of the season
Ingram has 12 steals and 12 blocks in the last 9 games
he only had 15 steals and four blocks in the first 23 games of the season
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 7:56 pm
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
Jose
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:34 pm to MrJimBeam
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Jose
Nope
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
BI?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:42 pm to whatiknowsofar
I would think Ingram?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:48 pm to cajun_tiger
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BI?
Aw yeah
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:32 pm to whatiknowsofar
Part of that is having BI guard more at the POA, which allows Herb to be a secondary defender (which he is the best I've ever seen at) having BI play up on the primary wing scorer also takes away BI's biggest weakness imo, which is ball watching when defending the corner shooter and allowing backdoor cuts. Smart move by Willie.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:25 pm to cajun_tiger
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having BI play up on the primary wing scorer also takes away BI's biggest weakness imo, which is ball watching when defending the corner shooter and allowing backdoor cuts. Smart move by Willie.
My memory's a bit fuzzy on this, but I think I remember Stan making that move with both BI and Zion and the defense started turning around, because they could handle the simple instruction of stay in front of their man much better than their rotation assignments.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:48 pm to TigerinATL
BI and Zion have actually been playing good defense overall, whether on the ball or help side. And its making all the difference in the world.
Herb is awesome off the ball.
Dyson is awesome on the ball.
And dare I say that I kind of think Dyson is a better defensive player overall than Herb. He’s better on the ball and getting through screens and he’s really a good rebounder.
Herb is awesome off the ball.
Dyson is awesome on the ball.
And dare I say that I kind of think Dyson is a better defensive player overall than Herb. He’s better on the ball and getting through screens and he’s really a good rebounder.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:51 pm to cajun_tiger
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Part of that is having BI guard more at the POA, which allows Herb to be a secondary defender (which he is the best I've ever seen at) having BI play up on the primary wing scorer also takes away BI's biggest weakness imo, which is ball watching when defending the corner shooter and allowing backdoor cuts. Smart move by Willie.
Good stuff. Willie's only problem at the moment...is when the other team has a stud offensive player that BI just can't guard. Then, you gotta put Herb on him & lose Herb's strongest trait... his off-ball defense. This is why I think Dyson is SO VERY important in the Pels becoming a serious contender. IMO, DD is just a tad below Herb in on-ball defense...so you can leave Herb to "roam" & let DD slow down that stud offensive player. Now...if we can just get Herb & DD BOTH shooting about 36% from the 3-pt line, we can have 2 very good defenders out there at the same time.
I'm hard-pressed to think of a single "contender" that only has ONE very good defender on the court at crunch time. Bottom line...Dyson is far more important for the Pels' future...than most think...and the Pels know it.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:58 pm to Dinky Mulberry
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Now...if we can just get Herb & DD BOTH shooting about 36% from the 3-pt line, we can have 2 very good defenders out there at the same time.
That’s the number, I agree.
Herb is pretty much there.
Dysons form looks great, he just needs to start making them.
As important as it is to always have one of BI or Zion on the court at all times, I think it’s just as important to have one of Dyson or Herb on the court as well.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:17 pm to MrBarry
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That’s the number, I agree.
Herb is pretty much there.
Dysons form looks great, he just needs to start making them.
Confidence...is such a strange thing in just about any sport. And SO very important. I'd ORDER Dyson to shoot 3-pt shots ANY time he's open...until his right arm fell off. And a seemingly small thing...like maybe letting Herb shoot the Technical free throw the other night (his FT% says he's earned the right to do so)...instead of BI...might be silly enough to actually give Herb added confidence in his shot.
To me, the regular season is mainly to get the "weak spots" in your players' game...identified and corrected. We're doing it successfully with Herb...now, we need to work on Dyson...also.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:47 am to Dinky Mulberry
Dyson's ability to defend the fast break without fouling is amazing.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:04 am to Split2874
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Dyson's ability to defend the fast break without fouling is amazing.
Herb and Jose are also elite at defending fast breaks. I would love to see a team ranking in fast-break defense, because I think that we're up there.
And that allows us to be much more aggressive in going after offensive rebounds than we'd be otherwise.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:14 am to GOP_Tiger
One on one with Dyson on a fast break isn't easy either.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:34 am to whatiknowsofar
BI is good at basketball
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:54 am to GOP_Tiger
We are currently 9th in fast break points defense at 13.7 points per game.
But lets just look at the last 12 games since the IST debacle
We are 3rd at 11.7 points per game in opponents fast break points
Our Defensive rating in the last 12 games is 108, which is 2nd best.
We are 3rd in steals at 8.4
We are 3rd in opponents 2nd chance points at 11.9
We are 8th in opponents points in the paint at 48.2.
We are 8th in forcing turnovers
We are 5th in opponents assists per game, which is a nice stat showing we are forcing teams to beat us one on one and we are able to defend at a high level one on one.
We are 3rd in opponents 3P% at 32.6%, and teams are jacking up 3's against us b/c we have the 9th most 3's shot on us.
We are 1st in opponents FG%
We are 2nd in points allowed.
We are being fouled the 4th most in the nba at 17.9, and we are 15th in fouls committed at 19.7
the one area that isn't great is points off turnovers, where we are 12th at 15.8. Imagine that, saying being the 12th best team in a stat is the worst defensive stat you can find against us.
The defense has gotten really really good since the IST debacle.
And i do think in the NBA that playing smarter more efficient offense is the first step to playing good defense. Bad shots are like turnovers that lead to fast break opportunities. When you limit the fast break points and make a team play half court offense, you give yourself a chance to be a really good defense.
But lets just look at the last 12 games since the IST debacle
We are 3rd at 11.7 points per game in opponents fast break points
Our Defensive rating in the last 12 games is 108, which is 2nd best.
We are 3rd in steals at 8.4
We are 3rd in opponents 2nd chance points at 11.9
We are 8th in opponents points in the paint at 48.2.
We are 8th in forcing turnovers
We are 5th in opponents assists per game, which is a nice stat showing we are forcing teams to beat us one on one and we are able to defend at a high level one on one.
We are 3rd in opponents 3P% at 32.6%, and teams are jacking up 3's against us b/c we have the 9th most 3's shot on us.
We are 1st in opponents FG%
We are 2nd in points allowed.
We are being fouled the 4th most in the nba at 17.9, and we are 15th in fouls committed at 19.7
the one area that isn't great is points off turnovers, where we are 12th at 15.8. Imagine that, saying being the 12th best team in a stat is the worst defensive stat you can find against us.
The defense has gotten really really good since the IST debacle.
And i do think in the NBA that playing smarter more efficient offense is the first step to playing good defense. Bad shots are like turnovers that lead to fast break opportunities. When you limit the fast break points and make a team play half court offense, you give yourself a chance to be a really good defense.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:01 am to cajun_tiger
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Part of that is having BI guard more at the POA, which allows Herb to be a secondary defender (which he is the best I've ever seen at) having BI play up on the primary wing scorer also takes away BI's biggest weakness imo, which is ball watching when defending the corner shooter and allowing backdoor cuts. Smart move by Willie.
I will be VERY interested to see how we guard LAC tonight.
I imagine that we'll see mostly Herb and Dyson on Harden, because BI and CJ simply can't handle him.
But when Harden is off the floor, does BI initially guard the ball, regardless of whether it's Kawhi or PG13 who initiates? I think so. I think BI guards the ball, and Herb is on the other one.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:50 am to whatiknowsofar
Would've guessed Nance
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:00 am to MrBarry
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And dare I say that I kind of think Dyson is a better defensive player overall than Herb. He’s better on the ball and getting through screens and he’s really a good rebounder.
Not a hot take. I think Dyson is the best POA defender on the team. Herb is better off ball.
Dyson is a special defender
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