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AD Interview with Marty Smith
Posted on 10/7/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/7/17 at 2:50 pm
Didn’t see it posted and can’t link at the moment, but ESPN’s Marty Smith had a sit down interview with AD recently and spoke about race and everything currently happening and I think that AD handled the topic extremely well. It’s on Twitter for you guys to look at.
I’m glad AD represents our franchise despite all of its back asswardness.
I’m glad AD represents our franchise despite all of its back asswardness.
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:16 pm to BallHawk
No cliffs or link.
Great job
Great job
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:32 pm to Ryan3232
I was getting gas when I posted and even said I can’t link at the moment. Don’t be that guy.
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:32 pm to BallHawk
Let me help you with the link
LINK
it's nothing groundbreaking. AD gives some insight into how the team has been talking about what they will do but said whatever it is, it will be as a team. Said they have in the past had sit downs with local law enforcement and inner city kids.
the handshake/hug at the beginning...marty hangs on a LITTLE too long there.
LINK
it's nothing groundbreaking. AD gives some insight into how the team has been talking about what they will do but said whatever it is, it will be as a team. Said they have in the past had sit downs with local law enforcement and inner city kids.
the handshake/hug at the beginning...marty hangs on a LITTLE too long there.
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:39 pm to Ryan3232
Here's the video LINK and a write up from the advocate on it. LINK
The only really basketball related thing he said was he talked about this being the most talented and competitive team he's been on and how guys 1-15 are committed to winning.
The rest was all related to the anthem protesting. One thing that the Pels and other teams have done in the past is host get togethers with police and inner city citizens. This is probably the most useful thing these pro playerrs can do with their celebrity is bring the police and the communities closer together to plant seeds of trust.
The only really basketball related thing he said was he talked about this being the most talented and competitive team he's been on and how guys 1-15 are committed to winning.
The rest was all related to the anthem protesting. One thing that the Pels and other teams have done in the past is host get togethers with police and inner city citizens. This is probably the most useful thing these pro playerrs can do with their celebrity is bring the police and the communities closer together to plant seeds of trust.
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:40 pm to quail man
Thanks quail and Tiger...hard to post from mobile and I have been driving around all day.
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:44 pm to BallHawk
quote:you're being that guy that cant wait til he gets home to start a good thread.
I was getting gas when I posted and even said I can’t link at the moment. Don’t be that guy.
What do you think we are supposed to think when we have no idea what you are talking about...
Posted on 10/7/17 at 4:19 pm to Ryan3232
Fair enough but even at home I post on my phone. Oh well c’est la vie
Posted on 10/7/17 at 5:38 pm to BallHawk
Im being a dick, no doubt. Go pels
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:27 am to TigerinATL
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The only really basketball related thing he said was he talked about this being the most talented and competitive team he's been on
I have to imagine that Davis has to say that, but I don't think it's the best. Heck, last year's team was better IMO (post Cousin's trade). The 14/15 team was way better though, both beginning and end. But if you compare the final roster (playoff squad)..
PG: 14/15-Evans/Cole> 17/18-Rondo/Clark
SG: 14/15-Gordon/Holiday> 17/18-Holiday/Moore
SF: 14/15-Pondexter/Cunningham> 17/18-Cunningham/Miller
PF: 14/15-Davis/Anderson> 17/18-Davis/Diallo
C: 14/15-Asik/Ajinca<< 17/18-Cousins/Ajinca
No doubt we made a massive upgrade at Center. But that team was better and deeper at every single other position. That was a dramatically better team..
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:31 am to brmark70816
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That was a dramatically better team
Pondexter's arrival literally turned us from borderline moronic IQ to reasonable. Dont forget how downright below average we were before QPon and Cole came on board.
What positions are you giving massive advantages to? Because there's a MASSIVE advantage at the C spot for 17-18.
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Heck, last year's team was better IMO (post Cousin's trade).
agree to disagree. We had dogshit at PG. Solomon Hill is not that much better than Cunningham to negate the upgrade from Frazier to Rondo/Clark.
You also neglect Tony Allen completely.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 8:07 am to ShamelessPel
"You also neglect Tony Allen completely"
I have a feeling Tony Allen is either hurt or something else is going on. Not just because of Gentry and Allen's comments about his limited roll, but why would nobody else want this dude? Hell- the Pelicans didn't even want him until the Solomon Hill injury.
You can't tell me that he is 100% healthy and couldn't draw interest from any contenders, let alone any teams at the minimum level. That simply cannot be explained, and if not for the Hill injury he is still a free agent.
When the offseason started do you think Allen just sat around and sucked on his thumb or do you think he was pushing his agent to get him a minimum deal on a contender? I'd like to say he was trying to get that bench roll on a contender. But, he couldn't get it. So why?
Just saying there's something going on that nobody knows about. I'm 100% sure if it. Doesn't add up one bit.
I have a feeling Tony Allen is either hurt or something else is going on. Not just because of Gentry and Allen's comments about his limited roll, but why would nobody else want this dude? Hell- the Pelicans didn't even want him until the Solomon Hill injury.
You can't tell me that he is 100% healthy and couldn't draw interest from any contenders, let alone any teams at the minimum level. That simply cannot be explained, and if not for the Hill injury he is still a free agent.
When the offseason started do you think Allen just sat around and sucked on his thumb or do you think he was pushing his agent to get him a minimum deal on a contender? I'd like to say he was trying to get that bench roll on a contender. But, he couldn't get it. So why?
Just saying there's something going on that nobody knows about. I'm 100% sure if it. Doesn't add up one bit.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 8:28 am to ShamelessPel
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What positions are you giving massive advantages to? Because there's a MASSIVE advantage at the C spot for 17-18.
I wrote it all out. The 14/15 team was better at every position, other than Center. I don't think one player/position is able to overcome a team being better at 6-7.
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We had dogshit at PG.
Holiday and Frazier were the PGs last year. You know the guy that was supposed to be a top 10 PG that just got a 126M contract. Frazier's not a bad back-up either. That's a pretty solid unit. Replacing Holiday with Rondo can't be an upgrade. No doubt we got a steal getting Rondo so cheap (which is why he won't be here next year). But Holiday is a "franchise" player and we take a dip moving him over.
Now you could say moving Holiday to SG gives us a boost there. That position should be improved over last year. I really like Hield though. He was just going to take some time to develop. Holiday will take some time to adjust to SG full time. But he will be better than what we did there last year.
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Solomon Hill is not that much better than Cunningham
Losing Hill was massive. Cunningham is a gamer, but it's not his natural position. Cunningham was on the market all off season and got no offers. We were literally it. If that don't tell you something, I don't know what will.
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You also neglect Tony Allen completely.
I only went 10 deep. Most teams only really play 8-9 guys anyway, so doesn't matter beyond that group. Besides, I don't know where he fits in. He is the 4th SG and I'd prefer Moore (the guy making 8M+ a year) as the back up there. If they really think that he can play SF, that would be a disaster. The guy is a demon defender, but he is just 6'4. He guarded SFs in the past, but he is 35 now and has lost a step. It just seems like a desperate move to me..
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:18 am to brmark70816
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Holiday and Frazier were the PGs last year
Post trade, Jrue was exposed. Rondo looks more comfortable in one game than Jrue looked at ANY point with AD and Boogie.
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I really like Hield though. He was just going to take some time to develop
I like Hield too (his SAC #s would have made him ROTY if sustained over the course of the season, landslide probably), but how does he factor into this at all? Now you're arguing pre trade roster was better than post trade? Essentially Hield + 11th pick > Cousins? I'm just asking.
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Losing Hill was massive
That is quite hyperbolic. It definitely sucks cause Hill/DC is likely >>>>DC/Miller, but Hill and DC aren't that far apart. Since you use DCs free agency against him (we know at least one team after him - Minny), I wonder:
What do you think Solomon Hill's free agency would have looked like this year after his performance last year?
I tend to think DC fits better around this core. He's a better shooter. He's a better slasher which is a staple in the Finch offense. Hill was not a demon on the perimeter. He was good, but his offensive game was tough to watch.
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The guy is a demon defender, but he is just 6'4. He guarded SFs in the past, but he is 35 now and has lost a step. It just seems like a desperate move to me..
I don't understand how fortifying the end of the bench with a grizzled vet who's been in the trenches is a desperate move. To me, it's the exact opposite.
I just really disagree mostly on your assessment of Rondo. Can he stay healthy is the question. He's our PG. I don't see chemistry issues the way this is set up.
I was pretty bummed about our chances this year until that move was made, and we found ourselves a more traditional PG, one of the games dying breed I deemed necessary since we have two bigs as our superstars. Someone's got to make sure they get theirs. Rondo and Finch are a hopeful start.
ETA: how far do you define roster out of curiosity because Uncle Al/Erman/Finch to me are worlds ahead of Monty and the gang post Malone.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:45 am to MrPel
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You can't tell me that he is 100% healthy and couldn't draw interest from any contenders,
Your suspicion seems warranted but hasn’t Allen basically been played off the court in the playoffs like was a traditional center? Maybe there really was limited interest. That doesn’t explain the lack of preseason minutes though.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:33 am to TigerinATL
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Your suspicion seems warranted but hasn’t Allen basically been played off the court in the playoffs like was a traditional center? Maybe there really was limited interest. That doesn’t explain the lack of preseason minutes though
The way I look at it, healthy or not, having a vet like Tony Allen as your 12th man even if he's in street clothes most nights is definitely not a bad thing for this team. I'd honestly prefer a "mental mentor" than some scrub from the D League who is on 10 day contracts in and out and never plays.
ETA: ideally they're telling the truth. He's a little banged up and they are going to limit his minutes to very specific situations. God forbid we need the depth, which is a concern with Asik/Hill taking up spots.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:38 am to BallHawk
You're not supposed to be on your phone when you're pumping gas
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:41 am to BallHawk
On the subject of the OP, it's REALLY hard to find anything to dislike about Anthony Davis. Dude is just such an all around genuine guy. Doing round tables with police and inner city youth as a "mediator" is the exact type of thing that will make differences. It's very small and not big picture, but it's SOMETHING.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:42 am to ShamelessPel
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Post trade, Jrue was exposed. Rondo looks more comfortable in one game than Jrue looked at ANY point with AD and Boogie.
The argument of Holiday vs Rondo is a complicated one and I'm sure system fit would go pretty far in determining the better player. But Holiday is and has always been considered a PG. Both were on the market this summer. One was bought out and took a low ball contract to prove himself. The other was a top 5 FA and landed a massive contract. So I can't see how anybody would point to Rondo and say he is an upgrade. That just doesn't compute to me. Sure you can point to Holiday sliding to SG and try to shoehorn his value in there. But his past performances would not support that type of gamble and it would be a massive reach by the franchise. I don't like the move, especially with the huge contract. Either way, it's a step down to me.
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but how does he factor into this at all? Now you're arguing pre trade roster was better than post trade?
I was just being wistful and miss having Hield on the team. Post trade, we sucked at SG. So Holiday moving over would be a big improvement. But I believe we took a big dip at PG as a consequence.
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What do you think Solomon Hill's free agency would have looked like this year after his performance last year?
I think GMs value potential over performance. Demps thought that Hill could have been a break out type player if given more minutes. I thought he was ok, nothing special. Plus the spending was way down this summer. But he is a solid bench/emergency starter type vet that would have probably got somewhere around 8M or so on the open market (ala Aminu).
I disagree with you on his loss. We are definitely going to feel it. Hill is more physical than Cunningham and has an edge. The team doesn't have many guys like that.
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I don't understand how fortifying the end of the bench with a grizzled vet who's been in the trenches is a desperate move. To me, it's the exact opposite.
It's not that I don't like it. I just don't think it matters or that he will make that big of a difference. Plus if he was brought in to play SF, that is just a reach. He can't do it full time. If he could be effective, why would the Grizzlies let him walk? He has been with them forever. Players like him, I like them staying with their teams. If they can still play..
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I just really disagree mostly on your assessment of Rondo. Can he stay healthy is the question. He's our PG. I don't see chemistry issues the way this is set up.
I didn't say anything bad about Rondo. I just said Holiday is better or should be better.
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ETA: how far do you define roster out of curiosity because Uncle Al/Erman/Finch to me are worlds ahead of Monty and the gang post Malone
NBA coaching is totally overrated to me. The most important things to me are talent, fit and harmony/inspiration. I just watched Ty Lue coach a team to the NBA finals twice and win a championship. I'm sure his system had nothing to do with it.
Demps is a horrible GM and ownership is shaky. We should have built the right way (draft and development). Now we are one of the least talented teams in the league with nothing outside of two Superstars. It's frustrating..
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:31 pm to TigerinATL
Im not saying I don't like the move, just seems fishy that NOBODY wanted him. Very odd. Would have thought Thibs up in Minnesota would have been all over that for the young guys.
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