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A draft pick will not all of the sudden catapult this team to success.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:16 pm
All of our best players are young. Another young talent isn't going to turn this team around. We need a starter that's been in the NBA for a time and knows the game to provide leadership. Another rookie isn't going to give this team leadership on the court. Sure, another good talent can help, but he won't make us a contender. We need experienced talent to go with the young talent.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:24 pm to HandGrenade
I'm anti tank at this point. But let's say the Pelicans get Pick #4. You can trade it for a young prospect that's more ready, like MKG is supposedly available from Charlotte. Detroit has been on the fence about keeping Monroe, maybe #4 interests them.. Where does Memphis stand after this year? They have a new regime and an aging, expensive and declining core. Do they dare blow it up? Rivers + #4 for Gasol maybe? Denver is another candidate for a possible reset, Chandler/Galinari + Mozgov for #4?
Keeping our pick would in no way be a bad thing, I just don't want to end up with #6-10.
Keeping our pick would in no way be a bad thing, I just don't want to end up with #6-10.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:24 pm to HandGrenade
Michael Jordan got drafted once. So did LeBron James.
I'm just sayin
I'm just sayin
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:33 pm to HandGrenade
quote:I'm pretty sure nothing is ever going to make a NOLA professional basketball team a contender. Ever.
but he won't make us a contender
I just want us to at least be interesting and fun to watch, and a new talented draft pick would do that.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:36 pm to danman6336
Boy I thought I was deflated before. Reading you outlook of "never" made it worse.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:37 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Well at this point in time it's either mid to late lottery or top 5. There is no playoff chance for us this year. It's just not going to happen.
Keeping our pick would in no way be a bad thing, I just don't want to end up with #6-10.
So that means we either make a conscious effort to suck and do something extremely beneficial in the long run as far as acquiring talent, or we just mull around and go around.500 here on out, and absolutely nothing good comes out of it whatsoever.
It just seems like an easy decision to me.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:38 pm to danman6336
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I'm pretty sure nothing is ever going to make a NOLA professional basketball team a contender. Ever.
Dude, if the Saints can win a Superbowl, anything is possible.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:38 pm to Gtothemoney
Well I mean what small market team has ever been a legit contender for a period of time?
The Spurs the last 15-20 years
That is the only single example of this ever happening in the history of professional basketball
The odds aren't exactly in our favor
The Spurs the last 15-20 years
That is the only single example of this ever happening in the history of professional basketball
The odds aren't exactly in our favor
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:39 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
There is way, way, way more parity in the NFL
Isn't there like just 8 teams that have won a title in the past 30 years, or something like that?
Isn't there like just 8 teams that have won a title in the past 30 years, or something like that?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:40 pm to danman6336
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So that means we either make a conscious effort to suck and do something extremely beneficial in the long run as far as acquiring talent, or we just mull around and go around.500 here on out, and absolutely nothing good comes out of it whatsoever.
This is ridiculous. Maybe if we keep playing hard and get to middling this year, we may not have a draft pick, but it could very well help develop some toughness in our young players. Then, next year, you can come into the season with a young, healthy team that can show some mental fortitude at the end of games.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:44 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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but it could very well help develop some toughness in our young players.
I like the way they've played the last 2 games. I have no problem with holding out Jrue, Ryno and even Tyreke until they are 100%, but forget the BS from that ESPN insider article that talked about screwing with Davis' minutes.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:52 pm to TigerinATL
For the most part Monty gets them to play hard. IMO, that's why Monty got hyped as a great coach. The problem is, he's not a head coach. He's an assistant coach/average talent developer/good guy.
His in game adjustments are horrible. His late game strategy is beyond horrible. The tank has too much momentum already. It's on auto pilot.
His in game adjustments are horrible. His late game strategy is beyond horrible. The tank has too much momentum already. It's on auto pilot.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:54 pm to HandGrenade
Team is not finishing any worse then sixth or so overall in the league. That gives you a whopping 2% chance to land one of the top three picks that possibly would land you such a player. Tanking is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:56 pm to Unknown_Poster
The 6th pick gets us nada.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:01 pm to Gtothemoney
Oh right. So yeah it's either fifth worst (given the protection) or -- percentages wise -- you get nothing.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:02 pm to Unknown_Poster
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or a whopping 2% chance to land one of the top three picks that possibly would land you such a player.
2.15%, genius.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:04 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:So my choices are get a top 5 talent in one of the best drafts in recent memory, or "develop toughness", some sports cliche that doesn't really mean anything?
but it could very well help develop some toughness in our young players
Yea, I'll go with the top 5 player
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:10 pm to HandGrenade
You're right in that we need a leader. However, what would you rather?:
A: win top-5 lotto pick and get Parker/Wiggins/Randle/Hood
B: finish 6 or above in lotto and get NOTHING.
A: win top-5 lotto pick and get Parker/Wiggins/Randle/Hood
B: finish 6 or above in lotto and get NOTHING.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:20 pm to TigerinATL
I thought this way for a long time too. But, the team should really consider the pick and this year as a sunk cost i.e. we already payed for it and lost. If the Pelicans are not going to make the playoffs purely because of lack of talent, tanking doesn't really hurt the team.
I don't buy the argument that we should not try and tank because we might have to give the pick to the 76ers. It's illogical because losing the pick to the Sixers simply means that we had to pay the piper for a deal already executed. If we get the 5th pick, then we are able to defer that cost till another point. Thus, there really is only a benefit to be gained and no actual cost realized.
The only small cost I can see would be if tanking harmed the team chemistry. But, if long term players (Jrue/Ryno) are out with injuries, we plan on upgrading SF & C, and EG is not a long term piece, I don't really see how team chemistry would be affected.
I don't buy the argument that we should not try and tank because we might have to give the pick to the 76ers. It's illogical because losing the pick to the Sixers simply means that we had to pay the piper for a deal already executed. If we get the 5th pick, then we are able to defer that cost till another point. Thus, there really is only a benefit to be gained and no actual cost realized.
The only small cost I can see would be if tanking harmed the team chemistry. But, if long term players (Jrue/Ryno) are out with injuries, we plan on upgrading SF & C, and EG is not a long term piece, I don't really see how team chemistry would be affected.
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