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re: Sly and the Family Stone: Greatest American band or no?
Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:39 pm to OldTigahFot
Posted on 5/8/16 at 9:39 pm to OldTigahFot
I think Sly Stone is one of those underrated geniuses. It's been said he's a proto-Prince and I hope listening to that music would justify such a claim. It seems that this band could play any type of music convincingly as well as other acclaimed acts of the era, like Prince and the Revolution for his era. The music was self-contained(produced solely by Sly), integrated and featured amazing instrumentalists. Sly was just a dope singer and it just came across that these people were the evolutionary Beatles but a MUCH better live act.
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 9:43 pm
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:44 am to OldTigahFot
You are so right about that Woodstock set!
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:02 am to logjamming
The Doors
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:07 am to ThePTExperience1969
Sly Stone was a genius who burned very brightly for a few years, and then his demons got the better of him. His music was an amalgam of other popular styles that achieved a unique crossover appeal. Sly and the Family Stone were not the best band ever, but they were the best at what they did.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:01 am to Poodlebrain
Sly & The Family Stone are often overlooked today for their influence in the funk/soul scene. Part of the problem probably arises from those of us old enough to have been alive when they were active issuing albums and touring. Sly was notorious for canceling shows at the last minute, or for appearing on stage so coked out of his mind that it would have been better had he not performed. But, their recorded legacy is unreal.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:09 am to pmacneworleans
ween is the greatest american band
(keep the downvotes coming, ween is awesome)
(keep the downvotes coming, ween is awesome)
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:25 am to monsterballads
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:57 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Not even the best American funk band
1. James Brown
2 The Meters
3. Parliament/Funkadelic
4. Sly and the Family Stone
1. James Brown
2 The Meters
3. Parliament/Funkadelic
4. Sly and the Family Stone
Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:16 pm to ThePTExperience1969
By almost any metric, yes. They are a viable contender for the Greatest American Rock Band. Hugely influential, commercially successful, critically acclaimed, legendary live shows, and pretty good longevity. They'd score well on any ranking rubric.
Still not REM, though.
Still not REM, though.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:18 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
quote:
Not even the best American funk band
It's kind of hard to pigeon hole them into "funk" IMHO
Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:54 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Good, really good but no where near Tower of Power in terms of musicianship. And that's just staying in the genre.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:58 pm to Kafka
quote:
JOURNEY
Or Run DMC.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:57 am to Cdawg
Sly's voice, Larry Graham's bass and Greg Errico's groove made Sly and the FS the greatest American funk band. They took what James Brown was doing and twisted it 12 ways from Sunday, almost like Zeppelin with the blues.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:16 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
quote:
Not even the best American funk band
1. James Brown
2 The Meters
3. Parliament/Funkadelic
4. Sly and the Family Stone
good list
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:40 pm to ThePTExperience1969
The answer to any - GOAT? thread is always:
No.
Always.
No.
Always.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:16 pm to Tigris
Update: so I've listened to Sly's acclaimed album Stand! and while I won't admit it's the greatest or among the greatest albums I've heard(I've heard a LOT of albums), I do believe it was the most revolutionary-sounding record of its time, 1969, before The Who's Tommy or Abbey Road. It represented a major sonic leap in sound that rivaled Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper and Led Zeppelin's debut and marked the birth of the progressive funk era of the 70s, more than James Brown records had done to that point. Another revolutionary aspect of the album was the balls in the lyrics Sly wrote: touching on racism, unity, sex and transcending gender boundaries. I can scarce believe other artists would've had the vision to put out such an album in the context of the late-60s, with most major artists moving to roots music in their compositions after the psychedelia of 1967. It is quite simply the best album the group put out in the context of everyone contributing and the most influential of that pivotal year, with possible exception of King Crimson's debut that ushered in full blown progressive rock.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 6:34 am to ThePTExperience1969
In my opinion the best 3 American bands would be
1. Doors
2. Alice Cooper
3. Allman Brothers
I know #2 will catch some flack, but damn, Coop was on a roll there for awhile and a lot of later stuff never got the credit it deserved. Criminally underrated band.
1. Doors
2. Alice Cooper
3. Allman Brothers
I know #2 will catch some flack, but damn, Coop was on a roll there for awhile and a lot of later stuff never got the credit it deserved. Criminally underrated band.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:11 am to ThePTExperience1969
They're truly solid and transformed music from the pop orientation of the 1960s to 1970s rock having lyrics of greater social weight and importance.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 12:02 pm to ThePTExperience1969
sly stone was a stone cold freak
raised on gospel songs
but when he got high on funk and skunk
he too us all along
the family stone was black and white
other colors too
he stormed the walls of prejudice
his music busted through
That's from a song I wrote about Sly, Hendrix and Arthur Lee: three psychalelicized black men who revolution-ized pop music.
Sly is truly that important--to me personally as a Mt. Olympic-level talent--and to the entire universe of pop music.
Sly ...
raised on gospel songs
but when he got high on funk and skunk
he too us all along
the family stone was black and white
other colors too
he stormed the walls of prejudice
his music busted through
That's from a song I wrote about Sly, Hendrix and Arthur Lee: three psychalelicized black men who revolution-ized pop music.
Sly is truly that important--to me personally as a Mt. Olympic-level talent--and to the entire universe of pop music.
Sly ...Posted on 5/22/16 at 6:19 pm to ThePTExperience1969
They were very good. I hear their hits today and they still sound fresh and new.
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