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re: Pink Floyd: are the "Ultradiscs" the gold standard?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 4:34 pm to Marco Esquandolas
Posted on 6/23/17 at 4:34 pm to Marco Esquandolas
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I never said it did make a difference.
I mentioned that as a reference that they can be easily spotted among other CDs.
Well, hell. You fooled me by following it with this:
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The CDs were done by MOFI and called Ultradisc...they use a gold foil.
You really need a CD player with a great transport (the part that spins and reads--laser assembly) to hear the differences.
Earlier, you were also talking about hearing "subtle differences in pressings," like you're Barry Diament or something. That guy is a mastering engineer but is delusional on that issue concerning the same digital info encoded on the discs. The whole point behind MoFi and other "audiophile" brands as regards digital media is the improved mastering. It's got nothing to do with "gold foil" or other such marketing nonsense.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:00 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
...again, gold foil makes no difference...if it did, I would have launched into a dissertation on its benefits (as I do whenever I try to explain audio to the noobiess)--but I did not do that.
The statement was for all CDs, not gold foil. The subtleties in MOFI mastering can be brought out using a better CD player.
A great CD player, with a great transport, will reveal better sound than a cheap player, due to better tracking and reduced vibration (and I haven't mentioned what a great DAC can do).
...I appreciate your explanation of MOFI--but I am quite aware of what they do. I even had the pleasure of having lunch with Jim Davis a couple weeks ago while at the L.A. Audio Show (I am sure you know who he is, but if you don't, he not only owns all the rights to MOFI and its mastering processes, but also owns Music Direct).
The statement was for all CDs, not gold foil. The subtleties in MOFI mastering can be brought out using a better CD player.
A great CD player, with a great transport, will reveal better sound than a cheap player, due to better tracking and reduced vibration (and I haven't mentioned what a great DAC can do).
...I appreciate your explanation of MOFI--but I am quite aware of what they do. I even had the pleasure of having lunch with Jim Davis a couple weeks ago while at the L.A. Audio Show (I am sure you know who he is, but if you don't, he not only owns all the rights to MOFI and its mastering processes, but also owns Music Direct).
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:02 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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Earlier, you were also talking about hearing "subtle differences in pressings," like you're Barry Diament or something
Really man?
...and if you read it properly, I was referring to subtle differences in vinyl, not digital...digital does not use a cartridge...and pressings refer to records, burnings refer to CDs...please read what I wrote below...
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gear and a really, really good cartridge, you probably won't realize the subtle differences in the pressings.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:05 pm to Marco Esquandolas
...and yes, when you sit in front of a reference level system, subtle differences can be heard.
I am sure you know this first hand, yes?
I am sure you know this first hand, yes?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:40 pm to Marco Esquandolas
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Really man?
...and if you read it properly, I was referring to subtle differences in vinyl, not digital...digital does not use a cartridge...please read what I wrote below...
You're right, I thought this thread was about CDs and didn't go back and re-read your post. Apologies for that. No apologies for the rest of my post, though.
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and pressings refer to records, burnings refer to CDs...
No. "Burning" refers to using a writer drive's laser to effect change in the dye substrate of a burnable optical disc like a CD-R, DVD-R, etc. "Pressing" is what CD pressing plants do to make all the shiny manufactured discs you've ever bought in your life.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:43 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
Ok...ill give you that one on technical speak.
I believe most were called CD production plants, while LPs are called pressing plants.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:54 pm to Marco Esquandolas
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Ok...ill give you that one on technical speak.
I believe most were called CD production plants, while LPs are called pressing plants.
FFS.
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