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re: Peavey Valveking II 20W combo amp...

Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:40 am to
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:40 am to
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Ceriatone Overtone Special 50W combo


Meh, I wouldnt call amp build kit a "boutique" amp in the sense that most people all accustomed to. With that said, those Overtone Specials sound fantastic.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:22 am to
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You know how many people are actually competent enough on guitar to use a boutique rig like that to it's fullest potential?


he had an amp kit from ceriatone right? to call it a "boutique amp" is a little disingenuous IMO. shite, it's made in south east asia.

peavey valveking is cheap chinese made junk but at least it's not overpriced like a ceriatone is.

Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:51 am to
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he had an amp kit from ceriatone right? to call it a "boutique amp" is a little disingenuous


Of course, and Ive said as much in the post right above this (assuming you didnt get to it yet). But it doesnt pay to bash what is and isnt boutique because a great player will make a Valveking 20 sound great as well as a 3 Monkeys Orangutan 30 with a Fulltone Fulldrive Mosfet 2. Obviously the 3 Monkeys rig has alot more versatility and tone, but a great player wont sound bad through a Peavey.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:56 am to
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so a peavey small watt amp and a squier? man, you're going to sound SO GOOD


Jack Pearson is one of the greatest players alive, his go to rig is a Squire strat and a Fender Blues Jr. For his work with the Allman Brothers he used a cheap Randall amp.

LINK

A good guitar player will sound good through any rig, no amount of expensive gear will make a bad player sound good.

J
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:03 am to
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Squire strat


1. he doesn't use a stock squier strat
2. isn't he endorsed by squier now?
3. he used gibsons for decades

quote:

From Guitar Player Magazine February 2015: "I play a $90 Fender Squire Bullet Stratocaster. A friend of mine wanted a guitar for his daughter, so I went to the store and played all the Strats. The Squire Bullet was the most acoustically resonant. I never plugged it in. If it vibrates and holds the note acoustically, that is it. The salesman thought I was nuts. The next day my friend said, 'She wants a Tele.' I said 'Good, I'm keeping this.'

I replaced the volume pot, had the frets dressed, filed the nut and took it out on a gig. The second gig was the Gregg Allman Tribute at the Fox Theater. It's a great guitar. I have gone back several times looking for another one, but it was just that one out of the batch. It even has the 'undesirable' ceramic magnet pickups. The pole pieces are weird heights but they sound great. I wire the second tone control to the bridge pickup, but most of the time it is full up."


So again, it's not stock by any means. he changed a lot of shite to make it sound good.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:14 am to
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1. he doesn't use a stock squier strat 2. isn't he endorsed by squier now? 3. he used gibsons for decades


He bought it for 90 bucks at a pawn shop, the only parts changed were one of the volume pots and the cable jack.

Have no idea if he has an any endorsements, but the point is he sounds just as good through a 500 dollar rig as he does when he uses a $4500 Gibson and a multi thousand dollar amp. I would love to have the tone he gets with the squire and the blues jr, but it will never happen because I am not Jack Pearson.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:23 am to
he also had the board refretted with stainless steel frets, crowned and polished. a $400 job in itself.

so yes, you can make a squier sound good, but as a stock instrument out of the box they are hard to play, the intonation is off and they have all sorts of problems chinese guitars with low QC inherently have.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:35 am to
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So again, it's not stock by any means. he changed a lot of shite to make it sound good.


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I replaced the volume pot, had the frets dressed, filed the nut and took it out on a gig. The second gig was the Gregg Allman Tribute at the Fox Theater. It's a great guitar. I have gone back several times looking for another one, but it was just that one out of the batch. It even has the 'undesirable' ceramic magnet pickups. The pole pieces are weird heights but they sound great. I wire the second tone control to the bridge pickup, but most of the time it is full up."


Literally none of that will affect the tone of the guitar. That is all playability/convenience. That post even works competely against your point as it is really hammering home the fact that of all the guitars he picked up, the Squier SOUNDED the best
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Literally none of that will affect the tone of the guitar.


if you think that you don't know what the hell you're talking about
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:56 pm to
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if you think that you don't know what the hell you're talking about


well, let's see...

I replaced the volume pot
Common thing done to strats because this will give you more RANGE across the high frequencies and helps prevent muddiness when you get into the lower frequencies (say about 3-4) to add a little bit of balls to the lead pickup, especially when playing lead and not doing rhythm work. Rolling off highs on the treble pickup of a strat is not as important when doing chord phrasing or power chords. So this is a VERSATILITY improvement, not a TONAL improvement.

had the frets dressed
Obviously, strictly playability mod.

filed the nut
Obviously, strictly an intonation and tuning stability mod. The only other reason to file the nut is if you are going up to 12 gauge strings (SRV style) and cant get the low E to fit into the standard Fender nut. I have this problem as I play with 12's so I always have to file the nut.

"and took it out on a gig. The second gig was the Gregg Allman Tribute at the Fox Theater. It's a great guitar. I have gone back several times looking for another one, but it was just that one out of the batch. It even has the 'undesirable' ceramic magnet pickups. The pole pieces are weird heights but they sound great"
He's even saying how great this guitar sounds despite the shitty electronics, emphasing the point even further that he DID NOT HAVE TO MOD THIS GUITAR BECAUSE OF TONE.

I wire the second tone control to the bridge pickup, but most of the time it is full up.
Another very common thing done to strats to give you tonal control over all three pups instead of the standard Fender wiring configuration.

All of these mods are literally done in less than 1 hr total, and NONE of these mods affected the TONE of the guitar. It clearly already had it because as was previously stated, he picked this particular strat because it resonated and was more acoustic than the more expensive strats in the store. I stand by my statement that this guitar was not modded for any tonal purpose.

Now, what did I miss?
Posted by TigerRanter
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 4:22 pm to
Monster, are you trollin? I can't tell.
Posted by Geert Hammink_43
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 6:49 pm to
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overpriced like a ceriatone is.

they're prices seem pretty good. aside from rockitt retro and sligo, where else can you get an all hand wired amp for those prices?
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