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re: Musical taste is dead
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Why does "All of My Love" sound old, but "Black Dog" sounds timeless despite being by the same Artist? Synthesizers date music, acoustic instruments, grand pianos, organs, and overdriven guitars sound timeless.
It's not the synthesizer that has dated music, but the ways that they were used and similar sounds, much like drop D tuning for guitar was a factor that "dated" grunge music.
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They weren't able to just pick a sound and plug it in like a band in the box, which is basically what these programs are. Might as well call it music production for dummies.
You make this same tired and flawed argument in these types of threads pretty often. I don't know why I respond, because facts don't seem to matter to you. You are entitled to your opinion; however, lets just look at the facts. All devices that make music (notice that I'm not using the trigger word "instrument") have different learning curves. Yes, it may take more time and skill to learn how to finger pick on a guitar than to put those same sounds in a sequence on a synthesizer, but difficulty in learning a skill and doing something creative with that skill are mutually exclusive.
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Problem is, in many cases they aren't being used in a creative way due to the "artists" and "producers" not having a proper musical background to actually let them know what makes those sounds what they are.
And you are basing this on what? You are arguing that creativity in music is solely based on experience with more traditional instruments and music production. I agree that experience can inspire creativity, but there's a lot more to it than that.
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:31 pm to SUB
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And you are basing this on what? You are arguing that creativity in music is solely based on experience with more traditional instruments and music production. I agree that experience can inspire creativity, but there's a lot more to it than that.
You could argue that punk rock exists due to a lack of experience.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:40 pm to Jester
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John Frusciante is an amazing guitarist who also laughs at your argument. Dude is actually making retro acid house now.
Is he being played on pop radio? Sounds like he is confirming my argument
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:00 pm to SUB
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And you are basing this on what? You are arguing that creativity in music is solely based on experience with more traditional instruments and music production. I agree that experience can inspire creativity, but there's a lot more to it than that.
There is common knowledge and discussion within the music industry that these computer programs have dumbed things down. While it allows experienced engineers and producers to do their jobs more efficiently, it also allows uneducated, inexperienced hacks to produce cohesive beats and tracks that they never could've in the past.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:53 pm to BigOrangeBri
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There is common knowledge and discussion within the music industry that these computer programs have dumbed things down
Maybe I'm a half-glass full person, but I see the computer programs as "opening things up."
While it allows this:
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experienced engineers and producers to do their jobs more efficiently, it also allows uneducated, inexperienced hacks to produce cohesive beats and tracks that they never could've in the past.
It also allows creative people who may not otherwise have dabbled into making music, to make music, which I don't see as a bad thing. Sure, the music scene as a whole is may be more saturated with what you describe, but the scene itself has also grown as a whole. I'd argue that there are more people making quality music with non-traditional instruments (synths, computers, etc) than there were 30 years ago, they are just harder to find because of the over-saturation.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:07 pm to SUB
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There is common knowledge and discussion within the music industry that these computer programs have dumbed things down
Maybe I'm a half-glass full person, but I see the computer programs as "opening things up."
While it allows this:
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experienced engineers and producers to do their jobs more efficiently, it also allows uneducated, inexperienced hacks to produce cohesive beats and tracks that they never could've in the past.
It also allows creative people who may not otherwise have dabbled into making music, to make music, which I don't see as a bad thing. Sure, the music scene as a whole is may be more saturated with what you describe, but the scene itself has also grown as a whole. I'd argue that there are more people making quality music with non-traditional instruments (synths, computers, etc) than there were 30 years ago, they are just harder to find because of the over-saturation.
Like I said, there are positives and these computer based programs can open things up, but they've also definitely brought in negatives
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