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Jay Z vs Kanye West

Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Buddy Garrity
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:04 pm
I don't think it's as one sided (in favor of jay z) as most would think.

Kanye has 2, maybe 3 classic albums. Jay Z has the same IMO. Jay Z has way more material, but Kanye has more quality features and he is an outstanding producer.

However, I think Reasonable Doubt puts Jay on top, but barley.

What says the music board?
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:07 pm to
Kanye >> Jay Z
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:15 pm to
I think Kanye is an atrocious rapper. I think Jay-Z is way overrated as a rapper, but still much better than Kanye.

Kanye is obviously a much better producer than Jay-Z.

I don't think Jay-Z has an album as good as "my beautiful dark twisted fantasy".

I think Jay-Z has more great tracks than Kanye. But I think a big reason for that is because he's been making music for longer.

I'm gonna use originality as the tiebreaker and give the nod to...

Kanye
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:16 pm to
plus with out kanye's production who knows where jay-z would be
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Buddy Garrity
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:27 pm to
good point. kid cudi would probably be homeless if it wasn't for kanye.
Posted by Mugen
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

I don't think Jay-Z has an album as good as "my beautiful dark twisted fantasy".


Have you heard reasonable doubt?
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

plus with out kanye's production who knows where jay-z would be


Lol Jay-Z was elite long before Kanye. Love Kanye but Jigga man walks away with this one
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

I don't think Jay-Z has an album as good as "my beautiful dark twisted fantasy"


Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint are two of the greatest hip hop albums ever
Posted by lsusportsman2
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:12 pm to
Jay-Z is better and it's not close.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:02 pm to
care to explain how it's "not close"
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Have you heard reasonable doubt?


Yes
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Jay-Z is better and it's not close.


It's never close around here.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint are two of the greatest hip hop albums ever


Not in my opinion.
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:19 pm to
freestyle battle jay-z wins 10 out of 10 times

Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:21 pm to
Jay Z is higher in the rank of MCs than Kanye is in the rank of producers
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Jay Z is higher in the rank of MCs than Kanye is in the rank of producers


I personally think Jay-Z is overrated as a rapper.

I agree with Nas that Eminem destroyed him on Renegade.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:36 pm to
Jay-Z is the winner here because his shitty verses >>>>>>>> Kanye's shitty verses. They both have some incredible verses, though obviously Jay-Z has more because of the length of his career, but Jay's work is of a consistently higher quality.

That's just strictly speaking from them as MCs. You can make an incredibly valid argument for Kanye as the better artist simply because of how fantastic he is as a producer and his willingness to do unorthodox shite and make it awesome.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I agree with Nas that Eminem destroyed him on Renegade.


Thats one song. "U Don't Know" is one of Hova's best songs and the beat (produced by Just Blaze) destroys anything Kanye has produced and is on the short list of greatest beats of all time.


eta: this version by Notorious BIG is simply insane and may be my favorite hip hop song ever
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 8:12 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:33 pm to
Jay Z

- Banging Beyonce
- Encore with Linkin Park
- Owns the Nets
- Has a few other good songs

Kanye

- Stronger
- Racist douche
- Is a gay fish
Posted by Chef Leppard
Member since Sep 2011
11739 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Owns the Nets


Why do people still say this stupid shite. He had like .05% and doesn't even have that now
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