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re: Does The Average Person Have Poor Music Taste?
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:50 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:50 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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that there is a line somewhere
I think there are bad bands who can't play music very well. I mean, if you put me on guitar you could objectively say my output is bad..
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:10 pm to CocoLoco
Yes. The average person has poor music taste. Everyone honest person here knows this. It's an unnecessary inquiry.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:27 pm to clooneyisgod
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Yes. The average person has poor music taste. Everyone honest person here knows this. It's an unnecessary inquiry.
Nope. People on here will tell you there is no bad music, movies or sense of style/fashion. It's all about each persons opinion, and if they think something is good, then that means it can't be bad. You know, because it's all subjective.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 11:37 pm to BigOrangeBri
Obviously this is very important to you so carry on.
I'll just enjoy what sounds good, or makes some emotional connection without worrying about listening to bad music.
I'll just enjoy what sounds good, or makes some emotional connection without worrying about listening to bad music.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
Same here. I just think it's ridiculous that people are arguing that there is no bad music.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:06 am to BigOrangeBri
quote:It's hilarious.
I just think it's ridiculous that people are arguing that there is no bad music.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:24 am to BigOrangeBri
You state something as fact, but can't back it up at all. You support your "facts" with other things that you know are good or bad and with other people's opinions.
What other factoids do you have?
What is the best looking American car?
What states are good and bad to live in?
What crawfish seasoning is good?
We'd all love you to enlighten us, oh keeper of facts, so that we can make better choices.
The fact is, you don't know the difference between opinions and facts. You sound like on old person in the 60's who spouts off to his kids about how "Rock and Roll" is bad music and that they should listen to swing or classical. That old person wasn't in the minority then and lots of people came to the same consensus, but that doesn't make it fact.
What other factoids do you have?
What is the best looking American car?
What states are good and bad to live in?
What crawfish seasoning is good?
We'd all love you to enlighten us, oh keeper of facts, so that we can make better choices.
The fact is, you don't know the difference between opinions and facts. You sound like on old person in the 60's who spouts off to his kids about how "Rock and Roll" is bad music and that they should listen to swing or classical. That old person wasn't in the minority then and lots of people came to the same consensus, but that doesn't make it fact.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:56 pm to SUB
SUB, it's not worth it 
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:25 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Yes, I can. If he thinks it's good then so be it, but it's still bad music. Just like some really enjoy Mcdonalds burgers. They can like it, but it doesn't make it good food.
The music as a whole is BAD. There's no changing that and actually, the musicians you hear on most country records are some of the best technical musicians in the world. That doesn't make the songs or the albums they're playing on good.
In fact I've worked with multiple, super talented musicians and engineers. Ask them, their answer is " eh, the music sucks, but it's a paycheck."
Music can be bad and it's not all subjective.
I can't disagree with this strongly enough. There is no such thing as objectivity in music. Every person is an audience of one. If I think MMMmmmm-Bop is the greatest song every made, then MMMmmm-Bop is the greatest song ever made. And if you think "insert terrible song XX" is the greatest song ever made, then how in the world could you possibly be wrong? Who in the world would I be to say that the song that moves you more than any other is garbage? What would that view even mean?
It is very tempting to say that there is music that is objectively terrible. But then if a single person counts that as their favorite song, then that's the best damn song every made....to them. And even if that befuddles you and many others, if ti's true, if it's true. And the fact that there are 5 billion different greatest songs ever made makes it really difficult to accept as true any argument that objectivity in music is a meaningful idea.
It isn't.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:35 pm to SystemsGo
Because music is not food, cars, or neighborhoods. BTW, you have poor taste in music. Nothing wrong with that really. Most people do.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:17 pm to SUB
quote:
You state something as fact, but can't back it up at all. You support your "facts" with other things that you know are good or bad and with other people's opinions. What other factoids do you have? What is the best looking American car? What states are good and bad to live in? What crawfish seasoning is good? We'd all love you to enlighten us, oh keeper of facts, so that we can make better choices. The fact is, you don't know the difference between opinions and facts. You sound like on old person in the 60's who spouts off to his kids about how "Rock and Roll" is bad music and that they should listen to swing or classical. That old person wasn't in the minority then and lots of people came to the same consensus, but that doesn't make it fact.
First off, I'm not even close to 60. I'm still quite young. And that's a horrible analogy, as I've said multiple times that it's not about mainstream or the genre of music. There is good and bad music in every category.
You guys are arguing that there are no bad movies or bad music. Anyone with a lick of sense knows this is not true. Are the determining factors less definable than other things?yes. But under y'all's methodology, the only things that are good or bad would have to be result based.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:03 pm to AlxTgr
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Because music is not food, cars, or neighborhoods.
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BTW, you have poor taste in music. Nothing wrong with that really. Most people do.
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Did you have a point there?
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I have the single best taste in music in the entire world.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:13 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Nope. People on here will tell you there is no bad music, movies or sense of style/fashion. It's all about each persons opinion, and if they think something is good, then that means it can't be bad. You know, because it's all subjective.
Alright man, you convinced me. Rap and Radiohead are objectively bad.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Alright man, you convinced me. Rap and Radiohead are objectively bad.
That was posted before your last post, so I'm not sure why you're addressing it again.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:27 pm to SystemsGo
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I have the single best taste in music in the entire world.
Everything I like is awesome, what I don't like is objectively bad.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Everything I like is awesome, what I don't like is objectively bad.
Me along with others have said multiple times that not everything we like is good. In fact, there are many things I like that I wouldn't consider good, and that's ok.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:36 pm to CocoLoco
Yes
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:10 pm to CocoLoco
[quote]I'm referring to those that never look outside of the bubble that is the mainstream; lack of taste or lack of passion for music?[/quote]
for me its this. I have no issue admitting i dont listen to music outside the "bubble" That being said i have no interest to. If someone shows me some some non mainstream music that sounds good im all about it. But i dont have the want/feel the need to search for non mainstream stuff. And im happy enough with just what is on the radio.
I dont think it means i have "poor taste in music" i think it just means i have a simple taste in music and im ok with that.
Something that is comparable is hardcore movie people compared to people that just enjoy watching movies.
My 2 Cents
for me its this. I have no issue admitting i dont listen to music outside the "bubble" That being said i have no interest to. If someone shows me some some non mainstream music that sounds good im all about it. But i dont have the want/feel the need to search for non mainstream stuff. And im happy enough with just what is on the radio.
I dont think it means i have "poor taste in music" i think it just means i have a simple taste in music and im ok with that.
Something that is comparable is hardcore movie people compared to people that just enjoy watching movies.
My 2 Cents
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Everything I like is awesome, what I don't like is objectively bad.
Absolutely.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:16 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Me along with others have said multiple times that not everything we like is good.
Just curious, why do you like it? If you like it, doesn't that mean it's good?
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