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Didn't Realize Boston Album was a solo project
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:44 am
Tom Scholz Interview
I knew that Tom Scholz was a mechanical engineer from MIT and created the equipment for the sound, but learned a lot from this documentary. This Japanese documentary is about 40 minutes long and starts out slow, but is pretty informative. Tom initially recorded the entire album, playing all the instruments, in his basement. The record company insisted that he be able to play live, so the band was created. The record company insisted that the album be re recorded with the band members in LA, but afterwards Tom went back and recorded it again by himself in his basement, later getting the vocalist to record the tracks there. The vocalist never realized he was singing to Tom's replacement tracks.
Another interesting note is that Tom didn't start playing guitar until he was 21 years old while in college.
I knew that Tom Scholz was a mechanical engineer from MIT and created the equipment for the sound, but learned a lot from this documentary. This Japanese documentary is about 40 minutes long and starts out slow, but is pretty informative. Tom initially recorded the entire album, playing all the instruments, in his basement. The record company insisted that he be able to play live, so the band was created. The record company insisted that the album be re recorded with the band members in LA, but afterwards Tom went back and recorded it again by himself in his basement, later getting the vocalist to record the tracks there. The vocalist never realized he was singing to Tom's replacement tracks.
Another interesting note is that Tom didn't start playing guitar until he was 21 years old while in college.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Another interesting note is that Tom didn't start playing guitar until he was 21 years old while in college.
That album still sounds as 'fresh,' modern and beautiful as it did 40 years ago upon its release. That he created that piece of timeless work basically singlehandedly is incredibly impressive and amazing.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:55 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Is there music in this video, or just talk?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:23 am to Ramblin Wreck
It wasn't.......if you notice, when written, it always reads.....Scholz played "virtually" all the instruments. On the remastered liner notes there are several other musicians credited with playing on the record, including drummer Sid Hashian, who in past interviews has never wavered on the fact that he played drums on the Boston tracks.
The remastered liner notes listing additional musicians is in line with numerous other acts that failed to list each performer initially. For example....... The Tubes failed to credit Bobby Kimball and Bill Champlain with background vocal credits on "She's A Beauty" the first time around. When the remastered version was released, full credit was given.
The point......Scholz is an extremely talented musician, who basically stood up to his label and told them to go pound sand (even though he lied to them at the time). You'll never convince me that he played drums on that first album, a time prior to drum programming. And while the drum playing on that album isn't anything exceptional, I'll take the word of Hashian.
The remastered liner notes listing additional musicians is in line with numerous other acts that failed to list each performer initially. For example....... The Tubes failed to credit Bobby Kimball and Bill Champlain with background vocal credits on "She's A Beauty" the first time around. When the remastered version was released, full credit was given.
The point......Scholz is an extremely talented musician, who basically stood up to his label and told them to go pound sand (even though he lied to them at the time). You'll never convince me that he played drums on that first album, a time prior to drum programming. And while the drum playing on that album isn't anything exceptional, I'll take the word of Hashian.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:35 am to geauxbrown
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And while the drum playing on that album isn't anything exceptional, I'll take the word of Hashian.
Foreplay/Long Time drums are legit, baw.
And I agree - nothing in history suggests to me that Scholz played acoustic drums on either of the first 2 Boston albums - he may have machined them for Third Stage and subsequent recordings. Sib was a pretty good drummer and the first 2 Boston albums are consistent with a good rock drummer playing those tracks.
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Scholz is an extremely talented musician
The word genius is thrown around too much, but Scholz is definitely a candidate for this title legitimately. From a top to bottom, songwriter/musician/producer/engineer/innovator - almost peerless in the combination of things he was very good at.
I like some of the stories about the original album, though - recording it in secret in Boston, while pretending to record it in L.A. Having an expensive, custom made guitar billed to the recording budget, but Scholz using a second hand Yamaha 12-string ($100 guitar) on More than a Feeling.
Good times...
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:54 am to Ramblin Wreck
Boston is definitely a solo project moreso than a band. That said, for a guy with such a good ear for guitar tone, the drum sound on 1/2 of Third Stage and everything beyond is horrific. He should be glad someone insisted those drum tracks on the first two albums be re-recorded, because otherwise the end result would've been a disaster.
FFS, you tour with a real drummer, and the results sound great in a live setting...sheesh, pay someone a few bucks to lay down some actual drum work on the albums. Some of the drum patterns on those later Boston albums are so awkward, they don't even make sense from a musical standpoint.
If it wasn't for the lousy drum sound, all those other Boston albums would have elevated themselves a couple of notches IMO.
FFS, you tour with a real drummer, and the results sound great in a live setting...sheesh, pay someone a few bucks to lay down some actual drum work on the albums. Some of the drum patterns on those later Boston albums are so awkward, they don't even make sense from a musical standpoint.
If it wasn't for the lousy drum sound, all those other Boston albums would have elevated themselves a couple of notches IMO.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:59 am to geauxbrown
By most accounts, Hashain is the full-time drummer on those early albums, except for Jim Masdea on "Rock And Roll Band". However, only one song on the debut features the whole band (Let Me Take You Home Tonight), and I believe Barry might play a solo on "Long Time"...other than that, Tom pretty much handles the bulk.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:16 am to geauxbrown
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And while the drum playing on that album isn't anything exceptional, I'll take the word of Hashian.
Never say a bad word about the man who had a totally cool name and possibly the greatest fro of any drummer, alive or dead.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:42 am to vandelay industries
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except for Jim Masdea on "Rock And Roll Band".
For all I know, Jim recorded all the drum parts for the demos - but Sib re-recorded the bulk of them and did the drums for Don't Look Back.
But I just don't believe Scholz ever recorded the acoustic drums for any release. I've been wrong before.
As far as a "vision" - Boston was mostly the vision of Tom Scholz. No one denies that. He's also one of the most influential guitarists of the late 70s - probably would be the most if it wasn't for a kid named Eddie Van Halen.
He also had some excellent help on those first 2 Boston albums which were amazing (the first album particularly).
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:43 pm to Ace Midnight
He could've been in the conversation when talking about the greats, if only he'd picked up the pace a little more, lol...instead, he got passed over by the other greats in that era. So much, by the time he went back on the road (Third Stage), he was trying to keep up with the Joneses by aping EVH guitar licks for his solo spots during the shows...
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:26 pm to Mandocello
....greatest fro of any drummer....
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:58 pm to Mandocello
Oh - and I would be remiss if I didn't say - we probably wouldn't know the name "Tom Scholz" if it weren't for Brad Delp.
There - I said it.
There - I said it.
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