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re: Best Classic Rock Rythum Section
Posted on 5/22/16 at 3:32 pm to WhopperDawg
Posted on 5/22/16 at 3:32 pm to WhopperDawg
Blues is where it shows, so I'll go Bruce Baker.
Jones and Bonham should be in there. 'Cause have the time they never knew what Page was gonna do.
Jones and Bonham should be in there. 'Cause have the time they never knew what Page was gonna do.
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Posted on 5/22/16 at 7:59 pm to WhopperDawg
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Jones Bonham
Hard to argue considering they could get fancy, yet were elite at the things a rhythm section is responsible for - keeping time and the groove.
The Swampers combo of Hood Hawkins is a good "below the radar" section.
The classic line up of Bad Company had Burrell Kirke - a criminally underrated rhythm section.
This post was edited on 5/22/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 5/22/16 at 8:04 pm to Ace Midnight
Know who else was tight as hell? Elvis' rhythm section of Tutt/Schiff.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 9:13 pm to WhopperDawg
Booker T. & the M.G.'s deserve mention for the Stax sound they created.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:58 am to WhopperDawg
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Jones Bonham
Entwistle Moon
Lee Peart
Lake Palmer completes this list
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:59 am to WhopperDawg
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McVie Fleetwood
Like fricking clockwork.
Never anything too fancy or awe-inspiring, but Jesus, they were tight.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:15 am to danman6336
Squire/Bruford are so awesome they made a prog band good. Yes would be virtually unlistenable without those two (and Steve Howe). Yes is the only prog band to ever swing, as most feel like doing homework. That's because Squire is amazing. And there's a reason he's the only member of Yes never to be replaced during his lifetime.
But I'd go Wyman/Watts. Mainly because Charlie Watts is the greatest drummer in rock history. He is the backbone of the Stones, even more so than Keith. Even Keith knows not to frick with Charlie.
Also, points for Sting/Copeland. And excluded because its not classic rock, but the Minutemen's rhythm section of Watt/Hurley is my favorite.
But I'd go Wyman/Watts. Mainly because Charlie Watts is the greatest drummer in rock history. He is the backbone of the Stones, even more so than Keith. Even Keith knows not to frick with Charlie.
Also, points for Sting/Copeland. And excluded because its not classic rock, but the Minutemen's rhythm section of Watt/Hurley is my favorite.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:31 am to WhopperDawg
Hill Beard?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:00 pm to WhopperDawg
Thain and Kerslake on Uriah Heep Live
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:11 pm to WhopperDawg
Wyman Watts
Game over
Game over
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:57 am to nc14
Not hating on Bill, but Richards Watts was a much better rhythm section for the Stones. Tracks like Jumpin Jack Flash, Sympathy for the Devil, Street Fighting Man, Live With Me, Happy and Silver Train support my claim. Keith was much more rhythmic as a bassist like he was at guitar and his bass tracks really drive these songs. In a lot of Stones tracks, excluding Satisfaction and You Can't Always Get What You Want, I can barely hear Bill's bass whereas the listener felt Keith's bass on the mentioned tracks.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:12 pm to Baloo
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Charlie Watts is the greatest drummer in rock history.
Meh. Jimmy Miller had to pick up his slack.
I never heard about anybody having to come in and pick up Ringo's slack or, hell, even Keith Moon and Moon couldn't keep time with a watch, a Grandfather clock, a metronome, another watch and another guy playing drums (who could keep good time).
Disqualified for "GOAT" drummer based solely on that.
He is one of the strangest guys in rock history though, and more shocking is so below the radar with his strangeness.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:29 pm to Ace Midnight
Well, Paul did play drums on multiple Beatles tracks and Lennon made the flippant comment that "Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the Beatles." So there's that.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:41 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:Can we kill that shite once and for all?
Lennon made the flippant comment that "Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the Beatles."
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The line often attributed to John Lennon - "Ringo isn't the best drummer in the world. He isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles" - was actually uttered by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:19 pm to Kafka
Anywho, Paul did pick up the slack for Ringo like Jimmy Miller did Charlie.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:56 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meh. Jimmy Miller had to pick up his slack.
His picking up Watts's slack is vastly overstated. The Stones were a band where some of the parts were often played by other members. They didn't wait around for the lead to show when Keith could play lead on rhythm on a track or when Miller could play the kit. Happened all the time.
The idea that Miller's occasional participation on the drums in someway devalues Watts is just silly. The Stones were not like that, whoever was there at the moment played.
You are talking about Charlie Watts for goodness sake.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:44 am to WhopperDawg
I always felt Watts was among the most rock solid drummers in terms of delivering a consistent performance and keeping impeccable time, as is the ideal. When Rolling Stone compiled the list of the 100 Greatest Drummers and Ringo was listed, Dace Grohl was quoted as saying "Ringo played with such feel" and I agree with that assessment. When it came to Beatles songs, Ringo and George Harrison had a knack for playing the "right" fills and notes in terms of servicing the song without being overly flashy.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:59 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:29 am to ThePTExperience1969
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as is the ideal.
I agree and also your comments on Ringo. They played exactly how they needed to for their respective bands. Both are generally very underrated.
I am a bit surprised that McCartney Starr didn't get more love on this thread.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:41 am to WhopperDawg
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You are talking about Charlie Watts for goodness sake.
And I think he was a great drummer, just not nearly in the discussion of GOAT drummer.
My gold standard is Bonham, just based on the variety of things he did well, with few weaknesses - kind of the Jack Nicklaus of drumming.
But guys who were "sloppy" technique-wise, but were "right" for their band abound - Nick Mason, Ringo, Keith Moon, etc. They played with the right feel and it obviously worked for those 3 legendary bands.
I'm not necessarily going to put Charlie in that category because I think his technique was stronger than those 3, particularly, and he still played with the right feel for the Stones.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 6:43 am
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