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Aquemini or ATLiens
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:42 am
Team Aquemini checking in.
Discuss.
#lolillmatic
Discuss.
#lolillmatic
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:09 am to MrCoachKlein
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:46 am to MrCoachKlein
Damn this is tough. I have to go with ATLiens all because of the 'cooler than a polar bears toenails' line.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:30 pm to MrCoachKlein
Aquemini because of Spottieottiedopaliscious
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:47 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
That wasn't the question, Little Buddy. Try harder.
ATLiens
ATLiens
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:25 pm to MrCoachKlein
Aquemini and not all that close
Imo
Imo
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:01 pm to MrCoachKlein
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Aquemini
ATLiens
Aquemini
ATLiens
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:20 pm to MrCoachKlein
Aquemini was a much deeper album and parts of it were difficult to comprehend. There was a vibe about it that I still cannot place my finger on. After the title track, the album just hits a peak and keeps hitting and then they lull you at the end -- in a good way. "Synthesizer", "Slump", "West Savannah", and "Da Art of..."parts I and II just rock the album, which is otherwise a fairly odd listen.
Atliens starts as an anthem album, after a very strange intro. Tracks two through 4 are just upbeat and they take the album to a very high fever pitch. "Elevators" is clearly a track that is meant to split the album into a different type of element. The tracks then get very jazzy, somber, dire, and reminiscent all at once. It's almost as if you could see Aquemini coming. "Decatur Psalm" reminds me very much of that Aquemini sound. The album should not have ended with a re-mix -- that's the sin of it. AT the same time, Nas's "It Was Written" was the perfect ending to a smash of an album; UGK did an outro that was just right; those were just three of many albums to pop at the summer's end of '96.
Overall, I have to give the nod to ATLiens -- there are about 2-3 songs I just simply love more.
Atliens starts as an anthem album, after a very strange intro. Tracks two through 4 are just upbeat and they take the album to a very high fever pitch. "Elevators" is clearly a track that is meant to split the album into a different type of element. The tracks then get very jazzy, somber, dire, and reminiscent all at once. It's almost as if you could see Aquemini coming. "Decatur Psalm" reminds me very much of that Aquemini sound. The album should not have ended with a re-mix -- that's the sin of it. AT the same time, Nas's "It Was Written" was the perfect ending to a smash of an album; UGK did an outro that was just right; those were just three of many albums to pop at the summer's end of '96.
Overall, I have to give the nod to ATLiens -- there are about 2-3 songs I just simply love more.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:55 pm to PiscesTiger
Summer of 96 was dominated by 'hay' by crucial conflict and 'crossroads' by Bone thugs n harmony
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:34 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
Aquemini was a much deeper album and parts of it were difficult to comprehend.
Funny how shite come together sometimes.
One moment you frequent the booty clubs and the next four years you and somebody's daughter raisin' y'all own young'n now.
That's a beautiful thang.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:21 pm to MrCoachKlein
Hard choice, but I will have to go with ATLiens.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:11 pm to Paul Allen
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Summer of 96 was dominated by 'hay' by crucial conflict and 'crossroads' by Bone thugs n harmony
If you let MTV dictate your music, then it was. Crucial Conflict didn't hit mainstream for another year. 'Crossroads' was an MTV pop hit - just like "Who Sucked Out the Feeling?" by Superdrag; "Pepper" by Butthole Surfers; "Where It's At" by Beck; "Champagne Supernova" by Oasis; "Popular" by Nada Surf; and "Tonight, Tonight" by Smashing Pumpkins were all pop hits that summer. This was before TRL and all of that shite...but those were all MTV hits.
Outkast and UGK were NOT of that cloth -- not even Masta P yet (Ice Cream Man broke that summer, too). Nas made it big that summer with "If I ruled the World". But the songs you mention normally fell in with the ones I mention. It's very funny how television and music has changed forever. Now, hip-hop is either "underground" or "pop" and can be heard on world famous radio. I recall, back in the mid 90's, if one wanted to hear black music, then you put it on a black station. The black stations, for the most part, were still NOT pushing the hardcore, cuss-fanatic rap music. Southern stations certainly didn't play 8 Ball and MJG nor TRU (who was not even known as New Orleans-rap until 1996/97). The only way to hear Outkast prior to 1997 in BR was to turn on KLSU's Monday night hip-hop show (GREAT one, btw). I recall seeing Outkast and east coast legends De La Soul both in BR that fall and the later was far more played on BR radio.
But back to Outkast and staying there...it would not be until Ms. Jackson, that the duo solidified themselves with audiences of TRL and the like -- the same teens who were heart-throbbing over Incubus, n Sync, Jay Z, and Korn -- all at once. That was a game-changer and until that point, Outkast was known in Atlanta, Baton Rouge/NOLA, and the Panhandle. That was IT. Rap music...well I liken it to wrestling before Vince M took it completely sideways and over. Radio played its territorial people unless it was east/west coast mainstream stuff like 2Pac, BIG, Ice Cube, Big Daddy Kane, or major acts (Bone, Ghetto Boys, Craig Mack, ATCQ, et al would break this mold, too). In other words, in the early 90's, you wouldn't hear anything in NYC from Ghetto Boys unless it was on MTV. Baton Rouge radio did not play WCC and the Madd Circle. Memphis radio may play Three 6 Mafia, but absolutely did NOT play the likes of an artist like Mobb Deep. It was just too territorial.
Outkast was the best when they were territorial. They broke the mold when their music became catered to college females.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:13 pm to Lou Pai
But the people down at the post office didn't call you back because you had cloudy piss...
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:29 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
But back to Outkast and staying there...it would not be until Ms. Jackson, that the duo solidified themselves with audiences of TRL and the like -- the same teens who were heart-throbbing over Incubus, n Sync, Jay Z, and Korn -- all at once. That was a game-changer and until that point, Outkast was known in Atlanta, Baton Rouge/NOLA, and the Panhandle.
ATLiens was certified platinum two months after it was released, and Aquemini went double platinum within 10 months of its release...
I guess your main point is that they didn't "sell out" until Stankonia, but their music was reaching ears from coast to coast well before that.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
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TLiens was certified platinum two months after it was released, and Aquemini went double platinum within 10 months of its release...
Atliens was NOT certified until at most, 3.5-4 months after big, big names were promoting the hell out of it (LaFace being all they needed). Elevators was first heard on commercial radio on June 30 and was played every day therafter (4th of July weekend sent it on its way). Atlanta, itself, was a major force behind the status of Outkast. The album was not officially released until late August. Most stations were NOT promoting the album; merely the single received huge support (and that is nothing new). The album did not go platinum after 2 months of airplay. I would say 3-4.
And certainly, I would not dispute how quickly Aquemini went metallic.
*ETA time frame...beginning of July, I found, most stations began playing Elevators. MTV was not. The album was certified platinum in November...so you and I both have a semi-correct time-frame. But again, it was only a handful of LARGE cities that made Outkast hugely successful. Baton Rouge, for instance, in 2000 was having to host the band at the River Center, as the crowds were huge. I clearly remember in September '96 (maybe the 15th?) seeing them perform at the LSU Union Theatre (and a TON of my friends were there...and it was a very evenly racially divided audience), but nowhere near the level of River Centre or PMAC. In other words, Outkast was nowhere even close, even at the beginning peak of their 2nd album, the status of what they would become 2 years and 4 years after.
Good debate, though, my friend...
Most people I know would have no clue about this sort of stuff -- yet, they'd claim to be HUGE Outkast fans.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:15 pm to PiscesTiger
Max 94.1 played outkast
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