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re: Worse Parents: The McAllisters or the parents from The Parent Trap?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:13 pm to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:13 pm to partywiththelombardi
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While the trap parents lied maybe it was out of genuine concern.
Maybe the relationship was abusive due to struggling and being young.
By separating they found their way and both became uber successful. Possibly matured through the whole process. Their kids were very well taken care of and never wanted for anything while also having a solid deep relationship with at least 1 parent.
Even if that were true, that would mean the sane parent willingly sacrificed one of his children to the fricked up one and was willing to never see their other daughter ever again. I don't see how that's a good defense.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:28 pm to OMLandshark
Not all abuse is physical. It could be psychological caused from stress. Maybe they weren't making ends meet. Maybe they just weren't clicking and only brought out the worst in each other. Young people do lots of petty and irrational things. Doesn't make either insane.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:28 pm to OMLandshark
Parent Trap. Not letting those kids know they had a sister was criminal.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:31 pm to partywiththelombardi
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Not all abuse is physical. It could be psychological caused from stress.
That's my entire implication.
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Maybe they weren't making ends meet.
But they thought it was a good idea not only to not see one of their daughters again, but tell them that their other parent was dead and they didn't have a sister?
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Doesn't make either insane.
A psychopath isn't necessarily insane, simply sadistic to a very large degree. From the implications of this movie, neither really had to have given a shite if this plot were to work out.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:35 pm to OMLandshark
If they made a decision to stay away from each other it was probably done with the child's best interest at heart. If your parents fight all the time, are divorced, talk negatively about each other all the time it has an impact on the kids and how they view relationships and their view of normalcy.
However a dead spouse can be romanticized for what they were when you met. The imagination can take over and that image can never be tainted with reality.
However a dead spouse can be romanticized for what they were when you met. The imagination can take over and that image can never be tainted with reality.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:37 pm to OMLandshark
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If they made a decision to stay away from each other it was probably done with the child's best interest at heart. If your parents fight all the time, are divorced, talk negatively about each other all the time it has an impact on the kids and how they view relationships and their view of normalcy.
OK watch this scene from the movie from my point of view and have an easy time believing the mother is nothing less than a monster: LINK
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:42 pm to OMLandshark
I would say they were maybe more selfish than sadistic.
If the twins know about each other it complicates the parents lives. Passports, unchaperoned international travel, expenses for traveling, losing your child for large blocks of quality time during breaks/holidays etc. Having to account for the parenting of a foriegn individual and any "SO" they have at that time and their influence on your kid,
If the twins know about each other it complicates the parents lives. Passports, unchaperoned international travel, expenses for traveling, losing your child for large blocks of quality time during breaks/holidays etc. Having to account for the parenting of a foriegn individual and any "SO" they have at that time and their influence on your kid,
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:51 pm to partywiththelombardi
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I would say they were maybe more selfish than sadistic.
Selfishness is the foundation of being sadistic. It's to the point of selfishness that has clearly reached being sadistic.
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If the twins know about each other it complicates the parents lives. Passports, unchaperoned international travel, expenses for traveling, losing your child for large blocks of quality time during breaks/holidays etc. Having to account for the parenting of a foriegn individual and any "SO" they have at that time and their influence on your kid,
OK, so seeing your own daughter and letting her interact with her father and sister is an inconvenience. So that excuses everything, instead of being the most selfish bunch of assholes in the world.
Really in that scene, Hallie should have slapped the shite out of her mother repeatably instead of saying "This arrangement sucks", and then she says "I agree it totally sucks" with a wink to the camera. It's not as if she and her daughter lived in a North Korean prison camp. She was rich as frick and her ex-husband was rich as frick.
They could have made this work pretty well with them living halfway across the world. Just have them visit each other every 6 months. Instead they decided to be selfish twats and deprive their children of things that most children actually need: a mother, father, and siblings, on top of not seeing one of their children again and giving no frick.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:56 pm to OMLandshark
well wasn't the dad Hugh Heffnering it up on his vineyard rotating women like tires...maybe the mom didn't want her daughter to be exposed to that kind of father figure.Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:49 am to partywiththelombardi
Um, which Parent Trap version are we talking about?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:14 am to OMLandshark
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Well, maybe to some extent, the problem is with them is they didn't give two fricks about Kevin and bullied the shite out of him.
This aspect infuriated and spoke to me watching it as a 9 or 10 year old. I didn't get mistreated growing up but there were times when I knew something to be true or had a better answer for something and got completely dismissed because of my age.
I got pissed when when Kevin accepted his Mom back just like that, and hoped to death he would tell her to "frick off" instead of hug her.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:17 am to Sauce Castieaux
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But twice? lol
They didn't really do it twice. It was different circumstances, they learned from the first mistake and the little shithead wandered off and wasn't there a counting mistake in the airport the second time?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:22 am to Dam Guide
Yea, but his dad made no attempt to make sure he was with him. He just ran like hell leaving kevin. Given the events of the previous year you better keep an eye on him.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:58 am to Dam Guide
Kevin just had to have batteries in his Talkboy. He stopped in the airport and got separated. After what had happened the first time, I would have had that litle bastard tethered to me until we sat down on the plane.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:01 am to OMLandshark
of course the parent trap parents are worse. i didnt even think that was debatable.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:36 am to prplhze2000
LINK
For the sake of landshark's argument that we over analyze everything in this movie. While Annie was undoubtedly trying to get under the skin of this new woman...the knowledge of knowing he was going to go to his reserve stock in order to impress a woman was undoubtedly knowledge that was passed to her from Hallie.
Along with the lady #27 comment which "may" have been a slight exaggeration but on the off chance that this lead to a confrontation between Meredith and their dad it had to be based on something that would need to be explained.
Her ability to paint a picture of what her dad usually does on dates at the house further illustrates either lucky guessing or knowledge that was given to her via Hallie at camp about their father.
For the sake of landshark's argument that we over analyze everything in this movie. While Annie was undoubtedly trying to get under the skin of this new woman...the knowledge of knowing he was going to go to his reserve stock in order to impress a woman was undoubtedly knowledge that was passed to her from Hallie.
Along with the lady #27 comment which "may" have been a slight exaggeration but on the off chance that this lead to a confrontation between Meredith and their dad it had to be based on something that would need to be explained.
Her ability to paint a picture of what her dad usually does on dates at the house further illustrates either lucky guessing or knowledge that was given to her via Hallie at camp about their father.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:41 am to OMLandshark
I don't remember them saying the other parent was dead? Am I totally forgetting this? 
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