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What was the meaning behind Fight Club?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:07 pm
Somehow movies you haven't seen came up tonight with my friends (a group of about half guys and gals) and one of the guys hadn't seen fight club.
Everyone is like "WHAT???, you haven't seen fight club?" Then we start talking about it...
Then I say that the movie is mainly about how our society has become filled with men raised by women and the media to basically be big pussies and care about materialistic things... My friends all got pretty quiet... and I felt like I may have crossed some line with my friends that are females. But they are my good friends and we were quickly on another topic.
However, that tends to be my perception of what fight club is really about.
Hell, it basically spells it out to you... IMO.
Everyone is like "WHAT???, you haven't seen fight club?" Then we start talking about it...
Then I say that the movie is mainly about how our society has become filled with men raised by women and the media to basically be big pussies and care about materialistic things... My friends all got pretty quiet... and I felt like I may have crossed some line with my friends that are females. But they are my good friends and we were quickly on another topic.
However, that tends to be my perception of what fight club is really about.
Hell, it basically spells it out to you... IMO.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:10 pm
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:09 pm to NATidefan
we don't talk about fight club
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:12 pm to The Ostrich
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we don't talk about fight club
Congratulations. this response was not expected at all.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:15 pm to NATidefan
quote:That's not a bad interpretation. I think it is more generally about a tamed society, but women are definitely a big part of that.
Then I say that the movie is mainly about how our society has become filled with men raised by women and the media to basically be big pussies and care about materialistic things
Sociologists called this over a hundred years ago. As women rise in a society, the more their delicate sensibilities are catered to. This explains PC, SJW's and the general offense industry - i.e. the softening of men and the cultural landscape in general.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:18 pm to NATidefan
It's an indictment of consumerism.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:19 pm to NATidefan
Men raised by women? They were probably shocked at how stupid that statement was. I agree with the materialistic part but it's not like women are the main cause of that. Men have always desired money and power and nice materials. Although I haven't seen it in a while so I might be forgetting some scenes. Basically what I'm saying is there was no need to throw women under the bus.
Eta: I guess I just disagree with you and blueboy
Eta: I guess I just disagree with you and blueboy
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:21 pm to blueboy
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That's not a bad interpretation. I think it is more generally about a tamed society, but women are definitely a big part of that.
I agree, but the movie definitely points out the female's role and the lack of a male role model, it's not just an interpretation.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:24 pm to NATidefan
There's that scene I had forgotten . I retract my previous statement
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:26 pm to Melvin
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Basically what I'm saying is there was no need to throw women under the bus.
I wasn't trying to throw women under the bus, just say what the movie was about. There are several quotes and scenes that reflect this other than the blatantly obvious ones... sure men have always been materialistic... but not with an ikea magazine trying to find what dining set defines you.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:27 pm to Melvin
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There's that scene I had forgotten . I retract my previous statement
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:28 pm to Melvin
i agree with you. i don't remember any indictment of women in the movie, it was mostly consumerism and debt slavery draining the adventure from life, leaving people trapped in their hamster wheels.
the main guy, in his ed norton personality, was depressed and couldn't figure out why. that's why he was going to all those meetings with people who had reasons to be sad. he felt like he belonged with them. when he started fighting, he felt alive and didn't need the support groups anymore now that his life wasn't an endless cycle of pointless drudgery.
the main guy, in his ed norton personality, was depressed and couldn't figure out why. that's why he was going to all those meetings with people who had reasons to be sad. he felt like he belonged with them. when he started fighting, he felt alive and didn't need the support groups anymore now that his life wasn't an endless cycle of pointless drudgery.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:33 pm to NATidefan
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with men raised by women and the media to basically be big pussies and care about materialistic things...
That was a line in the movie but not really. It's more so about how we have become overly structured or civilized and have lost touch with our more animalistic nature. It's against the establishment, but there is a bit about finding balance, hence the duality of personality pitting against each other.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:33 pm to NATidefan
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What was the meaning behind Fight Club?
In all honesty? Not much, really.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:37 pm to poe tay toes
quote:
the main guy, in his ed norton personality, was depressed and couldn't figure out why. that's why he was going to all those meetings with people who had reasons to be sad. he felt like he belonged with them. when he started fighting, he felt alive and didn't need the support groups anymore now that his life wasn't an endless cycle of pointless drudgery.
Actually the support groups are kinda one of the things that support my belief about the role of the women... He's at a support group crying between a big pair of tits (female solution).... then he creates fight club to deal with it (male solution) with another male he has created with a split personality cause that male solution doesn't exist to him.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:43 pm to NATidefan
It's about a guy who's life sucks and wants to be someone different. Brad Pitts character was someone Ed norton character made up
Eta: opps
Eta: opps
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:44 pm to poe tay toes
It's not an indictment of women.
It's an indictment of a society where men are no longer men.
And yeah it definitely says our problem is that we have a generation (more now) of men raised by women. That's not a stupid point. What he's talking about is rampant single motherhood where there's no male influence. Yeah there have always been mothers mothering, but there used to always be a man's man role model around, too. That and boys used to play OUTSIDE, all day, and rough, and fathers were the ones who were permissive of that and encouraged it. A single mother is more likely to say "stay inside away from the mean, scary, dirty world and play your videogame."
But more than that, Fight Club is mostly an idightment of consumerism. It's just saying along the way that the more domesticated we become, the more femme, and the more femme, the more consumer-driven. But that's just one point among many on the way to the overarching theme of raging against inhuman, disconnected, anesthetized, unauthentic, drone-like consumer culture.
It's an indictment of a society where men are no longer men.
And yeah it definitely says our problem is that we have a generation (more now) of men raised by women. That's not a stupid point. What he's talking about is rampant single motherhood where there's no male influence. Yeah there have always been mothers mothering, but there used to always be a man's man role model around, too. That and boys used to play OUTSIDE, all day, and rough, and fathers were the ones who were permissive of that and encouraged it. A single mother is more likely to say "stay inside away from the mean, scary, dirty world and play your videogame."
But more than that, Fight Club is mostly an idightment of consumerism. It's just saying along the way that the more domesticated we become, the more femme, and the more femme, the more consumer-driven. But that's just one point among many on the way to the overarching theme of raging against inhuman, disconnected, anesthetized, unauthentic, drone-like consumer culture.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:47 pm to Macintosh504
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It's about a guy who's life sucks and wants to be someone different. Brad Pitts character was someone Ed helms character made up
No, since Ed Helms wasn't in the movie, it's definitely not.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:48 pm to NATidefan
We don't have wars anymore, times are softer, we don't have things that allow men to define themselves as men. They feel cheated and a feminized culture tells them they are wrong to think so.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:48 pm to Cooter Davenport
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t's not an indictment of women.
It's an indictment of a society where men are no longer men.
And yeah it definitely says our problem is that we have a generation (more now) of men raised by women. That's not a stupid point. What he's talking about is rampant single motherhood where there's no male influence. Yeah there have always been mothers mothering, but there used to always be a man's man role model around, too. That and boys used to play OUTSIDE, all day, and rough, and fathers were the ones who were permissive of that and encouraged it. A single mother is more likely to say "stay inside away from the mean, scary, dirty world and play your videogame."
But more than that, Fight Club is mostly an idightment of consumerism. It's just saying along the way that the more domesticated we become, the more femme, and the more femme, the more consumer-driven. But that's just one point among many on the way to the overarching theme of raging against inhuman, disconnected, anesthetized, unauthentic, drone-like consumer culture.
I agree with all of that.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:48 pm to NATidefan
I didn't care for it. I never "got it" and never could get high enough to enjoy it.
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