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Watched True Detective Season 1 again and feel a lack of closure

Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:05 pm
I watched episodes 4-8 for the second time. I just randomly decided to start with episode four because I'd seen some of the earlier episodes multiple times already.

The show was still as compelling as I remembered it. Great acting, great dynamic between the characters. I really enjoyed it. But the end just left me a little unsatisfied, but maybe I just need some help tying everything together.

So the guy with the scars is the main psycho, but he also had Ledoux and some other guys kidnapping and torturing kids as well? Was he supposed to be a supernatural evil entity or something? It seems like they were implying that at the end but maybe it was just Rust's mental issues acting up?

I don't know, I just felt like it didn't all tie together very cleanly. Can anyone help me out with some perspective? I really loved the show just feel a little lost with the conclusion.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:14 pm to
I wish I had an answer for you, but I just have more questions. It's been a while since I watched it, but I remember feeling like there was no closure on the government officials covering things up as well. Maybe they explained it and I just didn't catch it.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:14 pm to
I think many folks were dissatisfied with the end. It was too easy, too quick, and just anticlimactic. But I'm not surprised since endings seem to be the hardest part about stories like this. With so much incredible build up the end was destined to disappoint.
Posted by Rockbrc
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:07 pm to
The ending was a bit too slick. A sequel to tie up loose ends wouldn't be a bad thing. Have to be better than Season 2.
Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:21 pm to
Anything is better than Season 2
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:20 pm to
What's y'alls take on the guy at the end? Was he some Satanic force or something? Elements of the supernatural?

And what was supposedly the dynamic between him and Ledoux? I guess Ledoux was just a follower of his or something?
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:51 pm to
i usually just try and forget that episodes 6-8 ever happened
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Rockbrc
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:52 pm to
All valid questions
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:18 pm to
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And what was supposedly the dynamic between him and Ledoux? I guess Ledoux was just a follower of his or something?


There was of course a satanic cult that the lawnmower man's family had been in for generations. Some powerful politicians ect. were alluded to be members.

I'm not sure if Ledeaux was a member or not but I am pretty sure he supplied the cult with kids to be sacrificed.

I am glad they left a lot was left open for interpretation. Most of the things were somewhat answered you just have to read between the lines. I think in too many shows they underestimate the audience's intelligence and feel like they have to explain everything to death and wrap up every single plot thread.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:39 pm to
Wasn't Ledeaux the illegitimate son of one of those powerful politicians who belonged to that cult but had died?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:42 pm to
It's possible but If so I don't remember it. I need to rewatch it, I haven't seen it since the first season was on HBO. I'm sure I've forgotten a few things.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 5:43 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:42 pm to
I never tried Season 2. The bad reviews here plus the premise didn't sound interesting. Season 1 was so different from anything else in large part due to the eerie atmosphere of southern Louisiana, not the cliche voodoo shite but empty cane fields and isolated dwellings. Season 2 being set in boring Los Angeles was a mistake IMO.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:48 pm to
My question was always - is Childress the Yellow King, or is the YK some higher being / ranking member of the cult? Or not a human at all, but rather some kind of pagan God? If the former, that's a bit anti-climactic.

I LOVED the mythology on this show. Carcosa, all that shite. But the last couple of episodes felt incredibly rushed.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:50 pm to
News on a season 3?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

I LOVED the mythology on this show. Carcosa, all that shite. But the last couple of episodes felt incredibly rushed.

the last few episodes basically tried to distance the story from that mythology
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:25 pm to
Setting was the least of season 2's problems
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

What's y'alls take on the guy at the end? Was he some Satanic force or something? Elements of the supernatural?


No, he was just the bastard child of the main patriarch that headed this old blood line in Louisiana, the legitimate children of which went on to be a Senator and the founder of a huge church organization that included schools and such.

The cover up, though, was that this old blood line had been there so long that they had roots in old world cult worship (specifically stuff that connected to old mardi gras traditions) and beneath the Southern Protestant veneer were actually practicing members of a pagan-Christian religion that involved sex and sacrifice of children and women.

All the supernatural stuff was a blend of the cult's philosophy and Rust's drug use causing him to have these visions.

While the background of corruption and cult activity in the deep south is certainly fascinating and intriguing, the story was always about the relationship between Rust and Marty and the clash of their life philosophies; the end resulted in Rust basically reconciling his cynical outlook on life
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

some kind of pagan God?


That would be my best guess
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46481 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

the last few episodes basically tried to distance the story from that mythology


I think what it signaled was that Pizzolatto had a much grander vision but HBO only gave him 8 episodes to work with so... it was use all the good stuff you could and then try to wrap it up by focusing the show on the character relationship instead of the mythology (which obviously needed more than 8 hours of filming to properly flesh out and do justice)
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 7:09 pm to
quote:


Setting was the least of season 2's problems



Maybe, but hearing it was just another Los Angeles show made me less interested. Zero creativity there.
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