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Two questions about Casablanca.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:33 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:33 am
1. When they joke about the drunk chick being equal to open a 2nd front against the Germans, are they implying she has an std and gets around? After reading how strict censors were, that's pretty risqué.
2. How'd people in the 40s stay in any shape after drinking so much. My liver hurt just watching the movie. And
2. How'd people in the 40s stay in any shape after drinking so much. My liver hurt just watching the movie. And
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:24 am to athenslife101
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2. How'd people in the 40s stay in any shape after drinking so much. My liver hurt just watching the movie. And
Actors were under contract and had to maintain a physical standard. They didn't have any down time between movies. The studios controlled their life, If somebody gained 5 lbs, a personal trainer showed up at their door the next week. Plus, they weren't ripped, they were just thin. Actors in the thirties and forties weren't muscular, with rare exceptions.
As for regular people, just living life took a lot more physical energy than it does now. You probably didn't have a car, you walked more, your job required physical labor. In your leisure time, you did something active instead of vegging in front of the TV or dicking around on the internet. If you're walking 3-4 miles a day on the job and moving heavy shite around, you can drink a lot without gaining weight.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:55 am to Jim Rockford
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Casablanca
GOAT black and white movie.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:14 am to athenslife101
All I know is that a couple of the GOAT movie scenes in film are in this movie:
La Marseillaise
Play It, Sam
La Marseillaise
Play It, Sam
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:26 am to athenslife101
This is up there with my favorite movies of all time. May well be number 1 (though that changes from time to time).
As far as the alcohol - it started really before the 40's. If you read a Hemingway novel like The Sun Also Rises, you wonder how they didn't all just die of alcohol poisoning. And a lot of the writers and such from that era did in fact do great harm to their bodies/brains over the long haul.
As far as the alcohol - it started really before the 40's. If you read a Hemingway novel like The Sun Also Rises, you wonder how they didn't all just die of alcohol poisoning. And a lot of the writers and such from that era did in fact do great harm to their bodies/brains over the long haul.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:43 am to Jim Rockford
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Plus, they weren't ripped, they were just thin. Actors in the thirties and forties weren't muscular, with rare exceptions.
Good examples of this:
Johnny Weissmuller was considered "ripped" or muscular for the times.
And this was the 1953 Mr. Universe line up.
(Yes, that is Sean Connery in the middle.)
Actors "working out" to be in pictures didn't really start (maybe a few exceptions here and there) until the 1980s - Stallone was probably the first to make it part of his persona, followed closely by Arnold (of course, he was a bodybuilder first), then guys like Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson (and so on).
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:50 am to Ace Midnight
Ingrid Bergman 
Posted on 2/2/16 at 8:56 am to LSUDAN1
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Ingrid Bergman
An almost impossibly beautiful woman at her peak.
Her daughter, Isabella Rosselli (despite inheriting her father's nose, not her mother's) was a beautiful woman as well, but did not really compare to mom.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:13 am to Ace Midnight
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Isabella Rosselli
She was fine too.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:14 am to athenslife101
1. No. They were implying she got around, just not that she had an STD or anything. Just that she slowed the German advance because they were too busy having sex with her. Sort of an inverse Face that launched a thousand ships.
2. We drink remarkably little as a society, historically speaking. Drinking is way down, and even the biggest drinker you know would likely be considered a massive lightweight two generations ago, even more as you go further back. The amount of alcohol are Founders consumed while writing the Constitution is mind boggling to a modern person.
2. We drink remarkably little as a society, historically speaking. Drinking is way down, and even the biggest drinker you know would likely be considered a massive lightweight two generations ago, even more as you go further back. The amount of alcohol are Founders consumed while writing the Constitution is mind boggling to a modern person.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:19 am to athenslife101
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My liver hurt just watching the movie
If Casablanca makes your liver hurt you should watch the Thin Man series. Ole William Powell as Nick Charles would roll out of bed and have a martini. In fact I think he was within reach of a martini at all times. LOL
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are they implying she has an std and gets around? After reading how strict censors were, that's pretty risqué.
Implying something and saying something outright is what separated the great old film from today. Double entendre and innuendo were ways around the Hays Code.
ETA...Though I don't think they were implying she had STDs. Just that she got around!
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:32 am to OystermanTiger
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Ole William Powell as Nick Charles would roll out of bed and have a martini. In fact I think he was within reach of a martini at all times. LOL
The alcohol consumption in Archer is a clear homage to that era of film, not necessarily The Thin Man, specifically, but just to the whole screwball and noir genres where everyone is drinking, all the time.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:50 am to athenslife101
"I came to Casablanca for the waters." "Waters? What waters? We're in the desert." "I was misinformed."
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:34 am to LSUlefty
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"I came to Casablanca for the waters." "Waters? What waters? We're in the desert." "I was misinformed."
The comedy in the film is what makes the film great. It is boring, wartime romance without the wit of Ric, Louie, Ferrari, Sam, even Lazlo.
Even Peter Lorre's Ugarte was tragically funny.
While it was not a throwaway, low budget or "indie" equivalent for its day, they didn't have sky high expectations for it, either.
It became a movie that was highly rewatchable and very quotable. It is difficult to be both things and not be a great film by some criteria.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:34 am
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