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re: True Detective vs The Wire

Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:45 am to
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:45 am to
Everything in this post is just wrong. So, so, so wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:53 am to
Mcnutty says, "what the frick did i do?"

Rust would get out the same concept in about 3 minutes of uninterrupted dialogue, while denying doing anything, or the ability of any thing to do anything
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:58 am to
Rust is way smarter than McNulty. He would've dominated Baltimore's criminals in the interrogation room.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:58 am to
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The amount of plot that gets developed in the first 4 seasons is not all that great when compared to the first 5 episodes of TD.

what in the frick?

true detective, through that point, was a murder mystery that never developed the mystery around the murder

true detective's biggest flaw was its inability to complete the plot it hinted at during the introduction
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:59 am to
well mcnutty is held back by being a somewhat realistic person, while rust is a device that could not exist in reality
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:00 am to
I watched 3 episodes of The Wire almost every until I finished the series after watching TD. I think the problem I am having is that I watched TD first. TD was brilliant through the first 5 episodes. The first season was like watching an 8 hr movie. The production and plot development of episode are bigscreen worthy.

The Wire was not initally recognized and later has developed acclaim. I thought the 1st two seasons were better than the 2nd and 4th. The 5th season is a betrayal of the rules set in place in the 1st four seasons. The ending really left a bad taste in my mouth. The fact that they focused on characters that were never in the plot and brought the press into it, along with the cops just throwing the rules out the window was disappointing. Season 4 all but left McNulty out. How can you put the main character on the shelf for the better part of a season? The Wire is a soap opera compared to the TD.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:01 am to
Are you serious with this? I liked True Detective but better than the Wire?

I guess you think Tracy McGrady was better than Michael Jordan too. SMMFH
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:03 am to
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true detective, through that point, was a murder mystery that never developed the mystery around the murder


I like the ending of TD but emphasize the 1st 5 episodes because of the debate about the ending. Where TD stood after episode 5 was epic territory.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:05 am to
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The Wire is a soap opera compared to the TD.




I'm running out of this thread. I could handle your off base analysis. But now that SFP showed up with his, it's just too much.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:06 am to
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Are you serious with this? I liked True Detective but better than the Wire?
Let me put it this way: The Wire betrayed us way worse than TD did with the last three episodes because they all but left McNulty out of season 4, really never developed season 2 and took season 5 and went a betrayed the rules it set it place through the first 4 seasons. You guys need to be more objective about brilliance.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:12 am to
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I like the ending of TD but emphasize the 1st 5 episodes because of the debate about the ending.

the ending...that never came. this invalidates the worth of the first 5 episodes
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:12 am to
It's objective fact to say you're wrong. The Wire continuously built on itself over 5 seasons. TD didn't even really build on 5 episodes before abandoning all of the interesting possibilities. The only thing I remember The Wire not addressing was Rawls in the gay bar.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16145 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:16 am to
Rawls is the gay bar was a riot. I loved the Wire but loved TD more. The Wire gets my vote right now but I see real flaws in the overall body but it is big body of work. TD has the potential to knock off The Wire because it is still running and has a huge first season. The Wire was slow to catch on. Who knows how much love TD in two decades?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:21 am to
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Let me put it this way


No.

Put your headset back on and get back to killing zombies or whatever it is you do with the joystick.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16145 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:26 am to
You realize I am not DoUrden, right?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:28 am to
I don't think that you understand the statement that The Wire was trying to make. It was a sociological study in fiction form.

quote:

The Wire was not initally recognized and later has developed acclaim.


I'm pretty sure that this is just flat out false.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:32 am to
No....that was for..him
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:33 am to
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and brought the press into it


You don't really understand The Wire, do you?

quote:

Season 4 all but left McNulty out. How can you put the main character on the shelf for the better part of a season?


Yeah, you definitely don't.

David Simon has said multiple times that the main character of The Wire is Baltimore. When you view it through that lens it makes so much more sense. The act of bringing in the press is perfectly understandable, as each season focuses on developing a different aspect of that main character's “personality," for lack of a better word.

As for soap opera,

You kinda suck.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16145 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:34 am to
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Despite only receiving average ratings and never winning major television awards, The Wire has been described by many critics and fans as one of the greatest TV dramas of all time.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16145 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:35 am to
Without McNulty there is no wire, beotch.
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