re: Troy

Immortality..TAKE IT! ITS YOURS

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patroclis was NOT achilles' cousin. he was actually his lover. back then....christianity hadn't put the "gay" rules into effect yet. i've read alot about achilles in the past.

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I think it has already been established that the movie did not stick to the books/mythology. However, this thread is about the movie...and in the movie, Patroclus is Achilles' cousin.

And as far as Achilles and Patroclus being lovers, Homer does not necessarily portray them as such. Many other writers viewed their relationship as pederastic, but this wasn't uncommon in Ancient Greece.

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patroclis was NOT achilles' cousin.

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His mother was thought to be Achilles' half sister, so he was actually his uncle.

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christianity hadn't put the "gay" rules into effect yet.

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Contrary to modern gay propaganda, the only form of "gayness" tolerated by the Greeks was the ritual man/boy love in which the seed of the mentor was "planted" in the pupil, thereby completing his ascent to manhood and enabling the pupil to be verile.

The greek word for the bitch translates to "wide arse" and the word for the butch translates to "hairy arse." Full-on homosexuality was not looked upon highly. Male companionship (friendship) was seen as more significant because women were not equal in society. Ergo, epic buddy stories have always been common, and throughout all cultures, from Gilgamesh and Enkidu to Riggs and Murtaw.

The activists are always trying to pull this shite with Alexander, Atilla and others. They even tried it with Napoleon, but he was such a famous horndog that they were forced to give it up.

I rooted for him because he delivers one of my favorite insults in movie history.

"You sack of wine!"

just to provide the morality play,

Achilles dies because he lacked compassion for Hector's corpse.

In the real story, no one escaped & Paris dies. Helen cries for forgiveness & shows her tits & is spared from death.

Also, all this trouble was started by Eris, who provided the "for the fairest" golden apple as payment for not being invited to the wedding. Paris chose Aphrodite who gave him Helen.

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Contrary to modern gay propaganda, the only form of "gayness" tolerated by the Greeks was the ritual man/boy love in which the seed of the mentor was "planted" in the pupil

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That's kind of a big thing to tolerate FWIW

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That's kind of a big thing to tolerate FWIW

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Their society would be confusing and a bit frightening to most people - a combination of unbelievably staunch and unforgiving conservativism and gaudy decadence.

A young mathematician was once famously drowned in the river by his peers for threatening to reveal that they had no solution for the square root of 2, for frick's sake. These were not simple agrarians.