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TLJ making the prequels better?

Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted by EGCROSS
Northern Idaho
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:20 pm
Just got done watching Eposide I and II and about to start III (weather is crap in Idaho today) and yes they are still as bad as they always were, but part of me likes them more now. They feel so much more like a Star Wars movie than TLJ. I think the main problem with the phantom menace to revenge of the Sith is that we all had a story in our head about how Darth Vader became and the story they told was not near as good. However, that being said the average Star Wars fan knew about the expanded universe and how Luke became just an incredible Jedi and the crap story we're getting now is even worse than the prequel's. That alone with the SJW crap just makes these so much worse in my opinion Also TLJ makes TFA a worse movie too. Yeah I know another thread.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:21 pm to
yes
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:23 pm to
yes, it was a storyline that people could follow. TLJ was just an action movie
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11590 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:24 pm to
I hate the prequels

But Maul alone is better than anything Disney has come up with

Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:26 pm to
Prequel Trilogy became Godfather quality simply with the existence of the sequel trilogy


But seriously, I understand why the prequel trilogy gets hate and I still enjoy it despite the flaws. We got to see what the Jedi were like in their prime after hearing about it for 20 years and they had some great CGI work. Dialogue and casting of Anakin hurt those films. Sequel trilogy, nothing can save what we've witnessed in two films

ETA: The prequel trilogy could have been sooo much more than what it was. I'll always be disappointed by what could have been.
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Posted by EGCROSS
Northern Idaho
Member since Dec 2007
1353 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:22 pm to
Still pissed Maul didn't survive until III and him and Anakin have a show down. That character had so much potential.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:00 am to
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a storyline that people could follow.
that was my thought when I saw the thread title.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61290 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:15 am to
I generally like the prequels, they're entertaining despite all of their obvious flaws. The prequels also felt like real star wars movies.

TLJ felt like a bunch of emo kids in a college film class were forced to make a star wars movie.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 12:16 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35549 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:26 am to
TLJ sucked.

But I can never get over the acting in the prequels.

The stilted dialogue never goes away despite TFA being meh and and TLJ sucking.

It's like a Commadore 64 wrote the dialgoue for the prequels. There's no life to them. I don't blame the actors...apparently they were given crap scripts by Lucas and told to act separetly in front of green screens.

That's not cinema.

And there's way too much going on...apart from Episode I. Never liked the idea that prequels will have way better technology than the so-called later episodes and massive CGI fights that never occured in the original trilogy.

Lucas should have gone more Ridley Scott and gummed up the prequels and slowed them down and enough with the damn toys.

It's just all CGI nonsense...overly-complicated plots and horrible dialogue that wouldn't pass muster for a high school play...but hey he's George, so nobody is going to question him.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:27 pm to
Should have gone through with death jar jar
Posted by Toonces Bitches
Member since May 2010
529 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:45 pm to
Just wanted to top this thread to say, "frick the Last Jedi" one more time.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 8:44 am to
i love the prequels
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25203 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:07 am to
The prequels would have been perfectly fine if had used the same formula that he had with The Clone Wars series. Come up with an idea and let other writers and directors craft the finished product while he oversees everything.

TLJ, and lets not kid ourselves here, is a legitimate billion dollar movie. And a lot of Star Wars fans hate it.

Instead of accepting that there are some legitimate gripes to be had about the movie the fan base has been labelled sexist and racist bigots. Congratulations on winning the battle but losing the war.

Gosh, nothing makes me more want to go see the next movie in a series then hearing that pointing out the Rose and Finn story in the movie was basically 45 minutes of filler makes me a bigot.

I am sure the next Star Wars movie will make a lot of money. It will do so without me buying a ticket to see it though.


Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6585 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:17 am to
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Still pissed Maul didn't survive until III

Agree, but it's easier to accept when you look at how each of the three secondary villains represent various traits that will come to define Vader.

Maul: Pure, raw anger
Dooku: fallen Jedi, who wants to rule the galaxy through order
Grievous: more machine than man

Also, when you think about it, the OT had a different primary antagonist for each movie, the same as the PT
IV - Tarkin
V - Vader
VI - Emperor
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150771 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:45 am to
quote:

But I can never get over the acting in the prequels.

The stilted dialogue never goes away despite TFA being meh and and TLJ sucking.

It's like a Commadore 64 wrote the dialgoue for the prequels. There's no life to them. I don't blame the actors...apparently they were given crap scripts by Lucas and told to act separetly in front of green screens.

That's not cinema.

And there's way too much going on...apart from Episode I. Never liked the idea that prequels will have way better technology than the so-called later episodes and massive CGI fights that never occured in the original trilogy.

Lucas should have gone more Ridley Scott and gummed up the prequels and slowed them down and enough with the damn toys.

It's just all CGI nonsense...overly-complicated plots and horrible dialogue that wouldn't pass muster for a high school play...but hey he's George, so nobody is going to question him.

Agree with all of that. I enjoy the prequels more than most do, most likely. But they are not "good" SW films for the most part. It was mainly just cool to see Vader become Vader, and how that happened. Most of the other things are filler nonsense, and the dialogue and acting are just plain atrocious like you said. The acting is distractingly bad.

I will say though, I finally saw TLJ a week or so ago, and I liked it WAY more than I thought I would. It wasn't overly great, and there were a lot of things in it that had me scratching my head (and some of the decisions in the movie just mad at in general). But after hearing nothing but negative after negative thing about it, I went it with VERY low expectations, and came out actually enjoying it a good bit. I'd love to trek into the TLJ threads to see why people hated it so much, but there are hundreds of them and tons of pages of bullshite to sift through, so I don't want to.
Posted by Red5LSU
Knoxville
Member since Aug 2011
494 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:00 pm to
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I am sure the next Star Wars movie will make a lot of money. It will do so without me buying a ticket to see it though.


You and I both know you are going to see Episode IX. Don't deny it.
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:23 pm to
Even with whiney, cringy Anakin in Atc, jar jar and some cringy dialogue, the prequels are a thousand times better than tlj, which is total garbage as a movie, and a total shite show for a star wars movie.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25203 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 6:00 pm to
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u and I both know you are going to see Episode IX. Don't deny it.



I would say yes.. but... no. Just this once. No.

Star Wars was THE defining moment of my early life. I waited until midnight to see the first movie. Vicksburg oh my God way back when.

Now, it is like getting to the very last chapter of Lord of the Rings to find out that Frodo is a child molester.

I can't do it anymore.
Posted by GoRuckTiger
Bossie City
Member since Aug 2013
1453 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:59 pm to
I mean seriously how hard is it to write a decent Star Wars movie? I've read too many start wars stories written by fans that would have been incredible to see on film. Also some really terrible ones. But you'd think with something like start wars you make sure the story is the best that it can be before you put it to film. Seems to me the TLJ was rushed to meet this 2 year cycle that Disney has put in place for each movie of this trilogy. Just a terrible decision. Why rush these movies?
Posted by Kayhill Brown
Member since May 2010
940 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 8:09 am to
This narrative is so ridiculous.

The prequels are not good movies. Episode 3 is okay. I don't know how anyone can complain that TLJ doesn't "feel like a Star Wars movie" while trying to redeem the prequels (which feel so much more cartoon-y).
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